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NAZGÛL reacted to flying_dutchman2 in Ships of the late 16th century?
I was reading this post and it peeked my interest. Anything in Dutch ship building is always good. I then Googled this and came upon http://warshipvasa.freeforums.net/thread/78?page=1this page and what I was going to mention on here has already been answered on that page. Lots of stuff I did not know as well. Bookmarked the page and will be reading more. Also, Fredhocker decribed this subject very thorough. Most of the thesis and dissertations on the Texas AMU site are free for the taking. Lots of interesting material on ship building.
Both books from Witsen and van Yk have good descriptions about Dutch ship building. The Nautical Research Guild had a 4 part article about Dutch ship building and it was by Hoving. He mentions all the important Shipbuilding literature in the Netherlands (1671-1838).
Part 1 is in Volume 58 No.3
Part 2 is in Volume 58 No.4
Part 3 is in Volume 59 No.1
Part 4 is in Volume 59 No.2
If you want this article, I can probably get it for you.
You probably know this already, the Kalmare Nyckel has a very interesting website.
Forgot to mention the Book by the name of Ships of Abel Tasman by Hoving and Emke is also on this subject. Lots of pictures, plans and the CD-Rom with more plans. I have several books from Hoving and this are is what he knows best. I noticed that many chapters overlap each other in all of his books.
Marc
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NAZGÛL reacted to jollymillar in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Matti..... Thanks for the info, I have ordered a couple of books from the museum dealing with the pain..... now onto the gun ports !! JM
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from jollymillar in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Hey JM! The images not working is likely because the site crashed earlier.
The blue Vasa with gilded details is an old guess that later turned out incorrect. Today they have made research on the paint pigments left and know she was red and had polychrome sculptures. From what Ive heard red was the traditional color for the swedish navy. The polychrome look was the northgerman style.
/Matti
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NAZGÛL reacted to jollymillar in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Nazgul.... two quick questions ?? I cannot view many of your thumbnails on your building log, is the problem my end??
Also the painting of the hull differs from blue to red on different boats..... any reason for this ?? JM
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from jollymillar in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Ah, yeah, the instructions are not very linear. Some jumping back and forth is needed.
I've done some scratch building so I don't use plans very much, just to get what part is what.
Just relax , I'm sure you'll do great.
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from MarisStella.hr in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Cheers mate, means a lot! Actually I am in the planning stage for the next build. I'd like to make a ship of the Swedish king Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Not much documentation about them so I will have some freedom when designing it. But it takes some time to think through it all.
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Cheers mate, means a lot! Actually I am in the planning stage for the next build. I'd like to make a ship of the Swedish king Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Not much documentation about them so I will have some freedom when designing it. But it takes some time to think through it all.
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from Salty Sea Dog in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Cheers mate, means a lot! Actually I am in the planning stage for the next build. I'd like to make a ship of the Swedish king Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Not much documentation about them so I will have some freedom when designing it. But it takes some time to think through it all.
/Matti
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NAZGÛL reacted to mobbsie in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Belated Congratulations Matti, both the Vasa and the case compliment each other beautifully.
Be proud mate.
You don't appear to have started your next build, what's it gonna be mate.
Be Good
mobbsie
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NAZGÛL reacted to jollymillar in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Also I have noted that you can jump from one thing to another if you try to follow the instruction booklet, but this is not helpful and it is best to finish off one area then look at something else. It is a challenge, and working on such a fabulous model and historical boat, you just do not want to make any mistakes and make it a original as you can. The kit was bought for me by my daughter four years ago when she visited the museum, so I want to get this right....... cheers guys JM
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NAZGÛL reacted to jollymillar in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Matti.... thanks I will review this..... JM
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NAZGÛL reacted to NMBROOK in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Around fifty miles further North buddy
Kind Regards
Nigel
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NAZGÛL reacted to Blue Ensign in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Hi Matti, I can't believe I haven't looked in on your build since Page 92 and missed the completion party.
Still I've now remedied that and have enjoyed reading the closing stages of your wonderful build.
I've always loved the lower mast/standing rigging only configuration of display ever since I saw a wonderful drawing by Landström in his book The ship. If you have it, it is drawing 380 on page 169, of a French 56 gunner.
Many congratulations Matti, a job well done.
Regards,
B.E.
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NAZGÛL reacted to jollymillar in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Nazgul, I am currently trying to rationalize the "Table of Contents" to the actual wood that came with the boat. Did you find it fairly accurate because I am not.
1077L to 1086L in the material column, is this suppose to be length ?? Any help would be appreciated. right now it is a Dam !! Billing's boat. Cheers, JM
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Thanks JM, once you get what goes where she builds in to a nice model. Feel free to ask and perhaps me or the other Billing Vasa builders can help.
Karl, your model turned out beautyful!
Vasa was a regal class ship, a kings powerful ship named after his heraldic name. Regal ships where usually named after things that were symbols of the king, The Spectre, The Crown, The Sword, The Apple (like Vasa sister ship Äpplet) and so on. Vasa is the family name (heraldic name?) of the king Gustav II Adolf. We call the time period between 1521-1654 vasatiden (The Vasa time) in swedish history because of these kings (and one queen). The V or W is because they had no clear spelling rules back then and wrote anyway they wanted.
Here's their heraldic symbol, same as on the Vasa ship. The thing in the middle is a vasakärve, a bundle of seed. These symbols are still common is swedish authorities.
I just finished the display case and got the model inside. The case is customized with a set of legs from an old table I had and some planks to fasten them. The display case is shortened to fit the model amd get nicer proportions of it.
Cheers!
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from MarisStella.hr in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Thanks JM, once you get what goes where she builds in to a nice model. Feel free to ask and perhaps me or the other Billing Vasa builders can help.
Karl, your model turned out beautyful!
Vasa was a regal class ship, a kings powerful ship named after his heraldic name. Regal ships where usually named after things that were symbols of the king, The Spectre, The Crown, The Sword, The Apple (like Vasa sister ship Äpplet) and so on. Vasa is the family name (heraldic name?) of the king Gustav II Adolf. We call the time period between 1521-1654 vasatiden (The Vasa time) in swedish history because of these kings (and one queen). The V or W is because they had no clear spelling rules back then and wrote anyway they wanted.
Here's their heraldic symbol, same as on the Vasa ship. The thing in the middle is a vasakärve, a bundle of seed. These symbols are still common is swedish authorities.
I just finished the display case and got the model inside. The case is customized with a set of legs from an old table I had and some planks to fasten them. The display case is shortened to fit the model amd get nicer proportions of it.
Cheers!
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from WackoWolf in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Thanks JM, once you get what goes where she builds in to a nice model. Feel free to ask and perhaps me or the other Billing Vasa builders can help.
Karl, your model turned out beautyful!
Vasa was a regal class ship, a kings powerful ship named after his heraldic name. Regal ships where usually named after things that were symbols of the king, The Spectre, The Crown, The Sword, The Apple (like Vasa sister ship Äpplet) and so on. Vasa is the family name (heraldic name?) of the king Gustav II Adolf. We call the time period between 1521-1654 vasatiden (The Vasa time) in swedish history because of these kings (and one queen). The V or W is because they had no clear spelling rules back then and wrote anyway they wanted.
Here's their heraldic symbol, same as on the Vasa ship. The thing in the middle is a vasakärve, a bundle of seed. These symbols are still common is swedish authorities.
I just finished the display case and got the model inside. The case is customized with a set of legs from an old table I had and some planks to fasten them. The display case is shortened to fit the model amd get nicer proportions of it.
Cheers!
/Matti
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NAZGÛL reacted to mati in Papegojan 1627 by mati - FINISHED - 1/48
After when planking and imitation of nailing was finished I started cover model using wax mixture. Pear got really noble and old coloure...I love it!!
...and some progress
... head gratings, rails and toilets
...by the way wales was covered using solution of birch tar and terpentine
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NAZGÛL reacted to mati in Papegojan 1627 by mati - FINISHED - 1/48
Welcome back... after some problems with old MSW my logs and not only mine were lost... so now I'll try restore what I wrote before...
So... I'm building dutch pinnce from XVII century. Vessel was built in Dutch shipyard and then serve few years in Dutch Navy... after all Navy sold ship in 1623 to Swedish Navy. This vessel participate in the battle of Oliwa (coast of Poland) in 1627... battle was part of war between Poland and Sweden. In 1929 vessel came back to the waters of Bay of Gdańsk to took part with other vessels in blockade of the City of Gdańsk. She was sank in 1644.
I'm using pear wood for entire model (except deck which was made using birch wood and carvings which is pau marfin)
Rest information you 'll find in following logs...
That how model looks after one year...
...and some picture from the beginning...
...and some picture of my gratings (1,5mmx1,5mm)...
...nails imitation made using 0,2mm brass wire...
Best regards,
Matt
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from Farbror Fartyg in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Thanks JM, once you get what goes where she builds in to a nice model. Feel free to ask and perhaps me or the other Billing Vasa builders can help.
Karl, your model turned out beautyful!
Vasa was a regal class ship, a kings powerful ship named after his heraldic name. Regal ships where usually named after things that were symbols of the king, The Spectre, The Crown, The Sword, The Apple (like Vasa sister ship Äpplet) and so on. Vasa is the family name (heraldic name?) of the king Gustav II Adolf. We call the time period between 1521-1654 vasatiden (The Vasa time) in swedish history because of these kings (and one queen). The V or W is because they had no clear spelling rules back then and wrote anyway they wanted.
Here's their heraldic symbol, same as on the Vasa ship. The thing in the middle is a vasakärve, a bundle of seed. These symbols are still common is swedish authorities.
I just finished the display case and got the model inside. The case is customized with a set of legs from an old table I had and some planks to fasten them. The display case is shortened to fit the model amd get nicer proportions of it.
Cheers!
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Ah, yeah, the instructions are not very linear. Some jumping back and forth is needed.
I've done some scratch building so I don't use plans very much, just to get what part is what.
Just relax , I'm sure you'll do great.
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from NMBROOK in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Ok, hope it will go smoothly!
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from jollymillar in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
The BB Vasa instructions have measurements in the part list when it comes to planks and such.
In my kit (the latest version I think) there are an extra set of plans showing the new diagrams of the lasercut part. They changed the setup compaired to the earlier version. Maybe thats the reason for your differences, but its weird that they didn't add the new diagram.
The plans felt hard to get at first, I remember joking some about drunk danes doing them. But they have all info there, but not made as an easy read. The 1:1 sheet is often helpfull. It's also helpful to look at reference of the real ship and the 1:10 to see how it should look.
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from CaptainSteve in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Thanks JM, once you get what goes where she builds in to a nice model. Feel free to ask and perhaps me or the other Billing Vasa builders can help.
Karl, your model turned out beautyful!
Vasa was a regal class ship, a kings powerful ship named after his heraldic name. Regal ships where usually named after things that were symbols of the king, The Spectre, The Crown, The Sword, The Apple (like Vasa sister ship Äpplet) and so on. Vasa is the family name (heraldic name?) of the king Gustav II Adolf. We call the time period between 1521-1654 vasatiden (The Vasa time) in swedish history because of these kings (and one queen). The V or W is because they had no clear spelling rules back then and wrote anyway they wanted.
Here's their heraldic symbol, same as on the Vasa ship. The thing in the middle is a vasakärve, a bundle of seed. These symbols are still common is swedish authorities.
I just finished the display case and got the model inside. The case is customized with a set of legs from an old table I had and some planks to fasten them. The display case is shortened to fit the model amd get nicer proportions of it.
Cheers!
/Matti
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NAZGÛL got a reaction from mobbsie in Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75
Thanks JM, once you get what goes where she builds in to a nice model. Feel free to ask and perhaps me or the other Billing Vasa builders can help.
Karl, your model turned out beautyful!
Vasa was a regal class ship, a kings powerful ship named after his heraldic name. Regal ships where usually named after things that were symbols of the king, The Spectre, The Crown, The Sword, The Apple (like Vasa sister ship Äpplet) and so on. Vasa is the family name (heraldic name?) of the king Gustav II Adolf. We call the time period between 1521-1654 vasatiden (The Vasa time) in swedish history because of these kings (and one queen). The V or W is because they had no clear spelling rules back then and wrote anyway they wanted.
Here's their heraldic symbol, same as on the Vasa ship. The thing in the middle is a vasakärve, a bundle of seed. These symbols are still common is swedish authorities.
I just finished the display case and got the model inside. The case is customized with a set of legs from an old table I had and some planks to fasten them. The display case is shortened to fit the model amd get nicer proportions of it.
Cheers!
/Matti
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