I'm thinking if I make my Port Stern Timber Thicker that should push the sides out and line things up properly. Fingers crossed!  

I'm having a bit of a problem I'm hoping you all might be able to help with. It aperies the plans I followed may be off concerning this. I build my windows to match the plans I downloaded but the hole frame does not fit as it should. looking at this Kit build the outer windows are supposed to hang over the outside of the frames but mine are almost completely inside they seem too small. not sure how to resolve this  

Has anyone seen these plans? I ask because there exceptive but if there detailed and complete, they may be worth the perches, but I would hate to be the sucker after dropping my wallet

https://www.modelerscentral.com/model-ship-plans/?product_cat=model-ship-plans

ADMIN: Removed strange brown format/colour.

14 minutes ago, James Flynn said:

Can anyone help me find plans for this. 

America gave This ship to the French as a gesture of friendship. America was the first ship of the line built for the Continental Navy, but she never saw service there, being given to France after launching. French ship America (1788) America was a Téméraire-class 74-gun ship of the line of the French Navy. The Royal Navy captured her in 1794 at the Glorious First of June. She then served with the British under the name HMS Impetueux until she was broken up in 1813. She became the prototype for the Royal Navy America-class ship of the line.

I found that it was part of the French Temeraire class but I'm unable to find any sort of plans 

Can anyone help me find plans for this. 

America gave This ship to the French as a gesture of friendship. America was the first ship of the line built for the Continental Navy, but she never saw service there, being given to France after launching. French ship America (1788) America was a Téméraire-class 74-gun ship of the line of the French Navy. The Royal Navy captured her in 1794 at the Glorious First of June. She then served with the British under the name HMS Impetueux until she was broken up in 1813. She became the prototype for the Royal Navy America-class ship of the line.

2 hours ago, ccoyle said:

That is going to be slim pickings. French subjects are somewhat neglected by kit manufacturers, and a 2nd or 3rd rate in 1/48 would be a massive kit. For that subject and scale, you're looking at scratch-building.

Well how about a good sorce for plans to do a scratch build then 

 I'm looking to find a decent French 2nd or 3rd rate ship of the line. Hopefully 1/48 scale, something that will compare with something like the HMS Bellona from CAF model. for a gift to a friend. Any advice would be greatly appreciated 

13 hours ago, mtaylor said:

Hmm.. that's weird.  Are you using the plans here on MSW from the group build?  IF so, check the group build area for the full hull model and have a look the logs.   

I have looked through all the downloads offered in the group build logs 3 times and unless I'm mistaken, I can't find it 

On 1/1/2025 at 7:46 AM, Thukydides said:

If all other avenues fail Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War by James Lees has the ratios. I believe there is somewhere on the forums where someone turned them into an excel sheet to calculate the sizes based on the size of your ship.

 

However, I would recommend taking a close look at the plans from RMG as a starting point. Sometimes the mast and yard dimensions are written onto the plans. Check out the plans for all the other ships of the same class as some plans will have info others will not. You can also take a look at The Steel tables the following link has the 1781 numbers as well as the more detailed 1799 ones.

 

https://www.goldenhind.ru/steel_en/

 

Good luck.

I  very much appreciate your help 

23 hours ago, Kris Avonts said:

The proportions for masting and rigging as mentioned in James Lees book were also discussed in this topic here some time ago:

On that occasion I looked into the spreadsheet 'Masting and rigging' made by Danny Vadas and corrected for some of the mast lengths and diameters. Thanks to ccoyle it was then also updated in the Articles Database.

 

I hope you find what you need.

Best regards,

   Kris

Thank you very much this is very helpful 

5 minutes ago, JacquesCousteau said:

There's some useful information and leads to follow in the conversation here: 

 

It touches on some useful source books for modeling British warships of the era. You may also want to check if the original plans for the Triton or other vessels of its class are available online (wikimedia has a ton of British warship plans), they would probably give you a good idea of the mast locations and angles.

 

Nice job on the windows!

Thank you al around 

42 minutes ago, James Flynn said:

I dream of having the ability to perches and build a kit but I'm an old man and on a verry tightly fixed income I can't see me being able to afford one in this lifetime unfortunately. Hence my choice for a scratch build  

I think I'm going to take a shot in the dark and set it at 20° to the horizontal that should give me a decent sail size for speed without putting too much stress on the bowsprit when I go to make this remote controlled. hopefully fingers crossed  

Hello, I am trying to build the HMS Triton found in the Group projects. The build does not include any of the masting construction and I am wanting to include the masting with bowsprit hoping to find info on how there all built into the hull of the ship before I get too deep into the build so I can add the necessary woodwork needed for their construction into the boat. I'm needing this info because I'm planning to make this a remote-controlled sailboat. I have looked everywhere I can think to look for something that might help me understand how the bowsprit is attached to the hull with no or extremely vague results hoping someone can help. Thank in advance to any able to offer anything to my dilemma.     

2 minutes ago, Gregory said:

If that information is not included in the plans they do not appear to be very useful for building a model ship.

 

Have you considered getting a kit?   The contents of a kit will give you a good idea of what is required in the way of plans, material and instructions to build a model, even if you decide to go ahead with a scratch project.

 

You might take a look at some of the kit reviews here to see what is required to build a ship model.

 

Here is a log where James builds the prototype for HMS Harpy, a Vanguard kit.

 

 

It will give you a good idea of what materials are needed  even if you make the parts yourself.   You can also see how the plans and instructions show how things should look.

I dream of having the ability to perches and build a kit but I'm an old man and on a verry tightly fixed income I can't see me being able to afford one in this lifetime unfortunately. Hence my choice for a scratch build  

34 minutes ago, Gregory said:

The plans do not show anything?

Usually, with a POB model  there are instructions for 'stepping' the masts and bowsprit.

 

Without seeing your drawings it would be difficult to suggest anything.

 

You could look at just about any kit build log to see how it is accomplished.  There is usually an opening in the deck and some type of cut-out in the backbone to locate the masts in their proper position.

My concern is in placing them in their proper locating and with the bowsprit especially that it's at the proper angle. also, I'm unable to find anything that tells me how much doubling it required when connecting the main mast to its 2 toper masts. I found this in the build plans, and it has helped allot but not with everything  

Triton Mast and Spar Dimensions.pdf

Hello, I am trying to build the HMS Triton found in the Group projects. The build does not include any of the masting construction and I am wanting to include the masting with bowsprit hoping to find info on how there all built into the hull of the ship before I get too deep into the build so I can add the necessary woodwork needed for their construction into the boat. I'm needing this info because I'm planning to make this a remote-controlled sailboat. I have looked everywhere I can think to look for something that might help me understand how the bowsprit is attached to the hull with no or extremely vague results hoping someone can help. Thank in advance to any able to offer anything to my dilemma.     

Can anyone show me how the masts and bowsprit are attached to the hull of this frigate please?  unable to find anything on it.

All these frame pieces are made of maple the window frames are birch 

I still have repairs to make on the windows sanding did some damage and I still need to glue of the outer frames after I separate and clean them up, but over all I'm happy with the results.

I can't find the plans for the rudder I looked all through the downloads 3 times and I guess I'm missing something but I  can't find it 

I'm having trouble seeing mine taking the same over all shape as this POF build 

I am asking because it's my first like this and I'm afraid I may have taken to much off but I'm not wanting to waste what I have if it is still OK 

Before I glue this could I ask if you all think I have my transom faired down at a steep enough angle?

This thing is freaking beautiful!