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olliechristo got a reaction from ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 13, 2014

Well small update, about 5 hours more. Frames added to one side and three gun ports stops added sides and bottoms, a bit tricky getting the frames layout to suit ports, but looks okay where it finished at bow and stern i think, ... now to do frames on other side and add cap rails etc.. happy crafting all.
olliechristo got a reaction from egkb in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 12, 2014

Well small update, about 5 hours more. Frames added to one side and three gun ports stops added sides and bottoms, a bit tricky getting the frames layout to suit ports, but looks okay where it finished at bow and stern i think, ... now to do frames on other side and add cap rails etc.. happy crafting all.
olliechristo reacted to kiwiron in HMB Endeavour by kiwiron - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:54 January 12, 2014

I think this is better.
olliechristo reacted to ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 12, 2014

I am with the guys...get rid of those cast gun ports. I know you can do better!! Casting is great for gun barrels but small parts must be used with discretion!

Tom
olliechristo got a reaction from ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 11, 2014

Well its been a bit slow in the shipyard with 10 hours spent since last post.. I am really taking my time to make sure i get things right.. lined bulwarks and added bulwark extensions.. will update again soon.. Ollie
olliechristo got a reaction from ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard -   January 11, 2014

Hi all, I'm working out gun ports... So I can carry on with lining bulwarks.. I have some conflicting diagrams. The supplied die cast ports are square, diagrams show rectangular....

I am wanting to make my own as i believe they are made of wood.. Trying to work out the lining of them and such... They will be cut up to bulwark extension once fitted which is 2x4mm walnut as height is needed for cannons.....

I am also pondering the finishing of bulwarks.. The 'deck edge' is 2x3mm walnut over 0.6 mahogony as diagram shows but it covers up a large proportion of margin plank.. (2.6mm) Is this okay?

If uprights are supposed to represent frames why would they terminate at deck 'trim'.. Is this authentic?   Regards Ollie
olliechristo got a reaction from egkb in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 11, 2014

Well its been a bit slow in the shipyard with 10 hours spent since last post.. I am really taking my time to make sure i get things right.. lined bulwarks and added bulwark extensions.. will update again soon.. Ollie
olliechristo reacted to kiwiron in HMB Endeavour by kiwiron - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:54 January 7, 2014

1st sanding done need to fill just behind the front balsa filler,it looks a bit to flat there i need to round it off better.Also removed a stern piece that was blocking the fitment of the rudder up through the deck,lucky i found it now.
olliechristo reacted to kiwiron in HMB Endeavour by kiwiron - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:54 January 6, 2014

All closed up,time to make a mess now.
olliechristo reacted to ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 5, 2014

Nice, nice, nice...Man did that come up good! You should be proud of yourself!
olliechristo got a reaction from Aussie048 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - April 7, 2014

Yes, don't worry guys, as I said i want to scratch build the ports.

I trialed many fake tree nails before biting the bullet and I'm happy with result... 0.6mm holes, darkened up the natural putty with cedar.. They look more subtle in real life.

From what I can gather about tree nails is.. They really are a just representation of something, it is no use making them the same color or even close to the same color as you will not see them, but you want them dark enough to show up.. Its a happy medium thing. Just be sure you trial them with your chosen varnish as this obviously changes the putty color completely..

My best tip would be to varnish before drilling and puttying tree nail holes.. It firms up the timbers fibres and you get a neater hole, plus the putty doesn't get all in your grain and caulking.. Ollie
olliechristo got a reaction from ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 5, 2014

Yes, don't worry guys, as I said i want to scratch build the ports.

I trialed many fake tree nails before biting the bullet and I'm happy with result... 0.6mm holes, darkened up the natural putty with cedar.. They look more subtle in real life.

From what I can gather about tree nails is.. They really are a just representation of something, it is no use making them the same color or even close to the same color as you will not see them, but you want them dark enough to show up.. Its a happy medium thing. Just be sure you trial them with your chosen varnish as this obviously changes the putty color completely..

My best tip would be to varnish before drilling and puttying tree nail holes.. It firms up the timbers fibres and you get a neater hole, plus the putty doesn't get all in your grain and caulking.. Ollie
olliechristo reacted to rlb in HMS Victory by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - Del Prado - Restoration January 4, 2014

Dan,

I can tell from just a few photos that you've already taken this wreck up quite a few notches. Cudos to you for sticking with your commitment.

At the risk of seeming uncaring (which I have the feeling you are NOT), I would probably be thinking of balancing my efforts with your friends' expectations--in other words, what seems only mediocre to you, might be fabulous to them. But knowing your standards, I bet it's very difficult to do a sub-par (to you) job.

Wishing you a good and speedy outcome,
Ron
olliechristo reacted to Dan Vadas in HMS Victory by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - Del Prado - Restoration January 4, 2014

I sure have Nigel, but the worst is over. Here's a pic from two days ago :

At least I haven't been suffering withdrawl symptoms while I'm on holiday, although I've missed my Byrnes Saw a lot (would have come in very handy .)

Danny
olliechristo reacted to aliluke in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 4, 2014

Hi Ollie
I ended up with the same issue with my margin plank. It was mostly covered by the linings and waterway so a lot of effort lost but I prioritised the correct bulwark set out over that loss. I should have planned it better. You could use a thinner trim but it should be slightly thicker than the combined main bulwark lining and frames. In the end a too thin bulwark will look worse than a slightly hidden margin plank IMO. A lesson for both of us in the future!

I'd definitely ditch the metal port lids and make my own. You can always experiment off the model and then compare but I reckon cast fittings for this sort of part are always going to look crude. The gun port should have stops at the base and sides. These should be set back from the outer planking by the thickness of that planking. These stops set the size for the lids inner lining which you can cut from sheet wood, ply or styrene. The outer part is planking aligned with the hull planking and to the same thickness. The hinges, bolts etc; can al be made in brass - in fact you can probably buy such bits as accessories - not sure. Maybe have a look at Dirk's (Dubz) Syren log or Gil Middleton's Victory log - the best lids in the business with working hinges...(but there are many great examples out there). All this is offered when I haven't made a gun port lid in my entire life!!!!

Hope that helps.

Cheers
Alistair
olliechristo got a reaction from ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 3, 2014

No I havn't john. I will do, i think the toothpick may have flared the 0.5 a little.. I've got 0.6 also will do another test batch.
olliechristo got a reaction from ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 3, 2014

Thanks for the compliments guys.. After looking at various logs and pictures I have decided to do tree nail..

I have chosen a Natural color as it was the lightest and i like "Cabots" Brand. It shows up a bit darker than decking, blends in from a distance but nice up close.. The left hand run of single plugs are 0.8mm holes and i think this suits... Regards Ollie
olliechristo got a reaction from egkb in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 3, 2014

Thanks for the compliments guys.. After looking at various logs and pictures I have decided to do tree nail..

I have chosen a Natural color as it was the lightest and i like "Cabots" Brand. It shows up a bit darker than decking, blends in from a distance but nice up close.. The left hand run of single plugs are 0.8mm holes and i think this suits... Regards Ollie
olliechristo reacted to Jim Lad in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 3, 2014

Or the 0.5 you showed previously also looks good, Ollie - have you tried the small holes with the filler?

John
olliechristo reacted to aliluke in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 3, 2014

Looking really good Ollie. Your nibbing is superb - nice and tight. I like the smaller nail holes and I reckon 1 hole per plank rather than two, except at the butts. I know there is historical evidence to tell you the correct way by I go by what my eye likes. I stagger my single holes (have a look at Fly to get what I mean by that). Another trick is to use masking tape across the deck to get the hole alignment right. Anyway, good to see you experimenting with this, I think it is worth it.

Cheers
Alistair
olliechristo reacted to Jim Lad in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 3, 2014

That deck has come up really well, mate!

John
olliechristo reacted to ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 2, 2014

Impressive!!! I'm running out of adjectives!!! Great work on the deck. Keep trying the treenail trick it looks interesting!!

Tom
olliechristo got a reaction from ringbolt2013 in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 2, 2014

Thanks Tom and Jeff.. Back into it.. I have done about another 4 hours on various tasks... I have finished deck planking, felt good putting that last plank in even though it was the trickiest.. .Very happy with result and i have to thank those who helped me..

I ended up with some with black from the pencil going into grain of some planking but i actually don't mind the effect...
I have scraped flat, sanded and satin clear coated, (still wet in some photos so looks glossy)

I also tried some tree- nailing with wooden tooth picks on my trial deck.. interesting how dark they come up after finishing... (because its end grain)

One trial is 1mm holes and other is 0.5 mm.. I would like them a bit lighter.. Will get some putty and other tooth picks tomorrow.. Still deciding.... will try more techniques.. Also showing my jig for cutting deck planks,, worked well, always square and good for trimming.. Ollie
olliechristo got a reaction from egkb in HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard - January 2, 2014

Thanks Tom and Jeff.. Back into it.. I have done about another 4 hours on various tasks... I have finished deck planking, felt good putting that last plank in even though it was the trickiest.. .Very happy with result and i have to thank those who helped me..

I ended up with some with black from the pencil going into grain of some planking but i actually don't mind the effect...
I have scraped flat, sanded and satin clear coated, (still wet in some photos so looks glossy)

I also tried some tree- nailing with wooden tooth picks on my trial deck.. interesting how dark they come up after finishing... (because its end grain)

One trial is 1mm holes and other is 0.5 mm.. I would like them a bit lighter.. Will get some putty and other tooth picks tomorrow.. Still deciding.... will try more techniques.. Also showing my jig for cutting deck planks,, worked well, always square and good for trimming.. Ollie
olliechristo reacted to kiwiron in HMB Endeavour by kiwiron - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:54 January 1, 2014

Happy new year,have a good 2014.1st Planking i re-did a bit at the aft end i was'nt happy with much better now.

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