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Ships - mainly merchant ships, though there doesn't seem to be many good kits of these.
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid Topsail Yard
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Where would the topgallant yard be kept when not required? Somewhere on the deck or kept atop the mast with no sail or with a furled sail?
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid Topsail Yard
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Thanks for the very detailed reply, Phil.
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Thanks very much for your detailed reply, Popeye2sea
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I'm rigging my model of SCOTTISH MAID with some sails, but not in full sail. I'm hoping to use the configuration shown in the attached contemporary painting of her. The topsail yard seems to be on the mast but without a sail. There is no obvious furled sail on yard shown in the painting but would you expect to find one there? Also, would the yard in this state just be rigged with lifts and braces or would it also have ropes connecting it to the lower foresail yard? Thanks, Graham
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Shiny Rigging Thread
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Thanks for the replies, but I'm trying to finish a 3/4 built kit model so I need some thread that matches the one that I've already used. I've no plans to build another vessel after this, so going down the route of making my own rigging is not really applicable. I should have also mentioned that the colour is very different as well, so I ideally need to find some older material. Anyone know of a manufacturer who does this?
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BenD reacted to a post in a topic: Shiny Rigging Thread
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Thanks Ben. I should have also mentioned that the colour is very different as well, so I ideally need to find some older material. Anyone know of a manufacturer who does this?
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Keith Black reacted to a post in a topic: Shiny Rigging Thread
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I've just reactivated a Artesania Latina model of the Scottish Maid which has lain dormant for 3 or so years. I found that I am short on rigging thread of certain thicknesses and so tried to order more. My problem is that none of the thread that I can buy (eg Caldercraft, Artesania Latina) look like the ones I'd been using. All the new ones seem to have a sheen that looks wrong when the rest of the rigging is done with a matt, more natural looking thread whereas the new ones look artificial. The model is about 3/4 rigged so I most certainly don't want to start again! I can only assume that manufacturers have changed their rigging threads for some reason. Anyone know where I can buy the "old" style of thread? Graham
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Reefing points - Scottish Maid
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gthursby reacted to a post in a topic: Reefing points - Scottish Maid
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Thanks, Jim. I think that I had misunderstood how they worked. Graham
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A stupid question - are reefing points on both sides of a sail? What's the best way of making them? Some people seem to attach them directly to the sail; others to a strip of cloth which is then bonded to the sail. Thanks
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gthursby reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid Rigging Pt3 deck eyebolts - vangs, topsail sheets
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
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Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I misundertood which one wefalck meant. Unfortunately I can't see anything about when the 2nd model was built, and by whom -
Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I think it's the same one, but remounted in the 2nd photo. Both are from Aberdeen Museum -
Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
This a photo of the Aberdeen Museum model of "Scottish Maid" referred to by Wefalck. I think that I had seen it before but ignored it, presumably because it looks relatively crude. It does seem to be attributed to Capt John Smith, which makes it rather more interesting if correct. I think it would be reasonable to assume that the basic rig of the vessel is correct, albeit greatly simplified. It would be very interesting to see the model in more detail, but this seems to be the only photo of her on the Museum's website and its staff are on holiday, so are not available to answer any questions. MacGregor's plans which model builders seem to use as a starting point, even if building from scratch, are taken from the half hull model in Glasgow museum (for the ships lines) and the builder's accounts (for spar dimensions etc). Everything else is deduced from a painting of the Scottish Maid, pictures of contemporary ships and common practice at the time. As far as I can see he makes no mention in his book of the Aberdeen model. -
Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I take your point, but I don't think I'll go to the bother of getting MacGregors plans. As I've gone on I've become more aware of the limitations of Artesania's model and if I'd known a few things at the time I was building the model I'd probably have done things a little differently, such as using thinner thread for the rigging. I'm not going to re-rig the ship though. Doing the ratlines once was more than enough! -
Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Thanks for both of your replies. I've got photocopies of the relevant pages of Macgregors book and in the small picture in it, the rigging of the Scottish Maid looks closer to Petersson's book that Artesania, however it's not easy to tell from one small drawing. I think I'll just try to rig her with something that looks mechanically feasible; probably very much simplified rather than trying to unscramble the position and function of every possible rope. It's clearly a specialist subject that I don't really have the inclination to become too immersed in. -
gthursby reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
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gthursby reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
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Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I would have thought that if you were climbing the ratlines the last thing you would want would be to have them tugged by a brace if the wind gusted.
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