
gthursby
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- Birthday 08/19/1949
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Ships - mainly merchant ships, though there doesn't seem to be many good kits of these.
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Reefing points - Scottish Maid
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gthursby reacted to a post in a topic: Reefing points - Scottish Maid
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Thanks, Jim. I think that I had misunderstood how they worked. Graham
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A stupid question - are reefing points on both sides of a sail? What's the best way of making them? Some people seem to attach them directly to the sail; others to a strip of cloth which is then bonded to the sail. Thanks
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gthursby reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid Rigging Pt3 deck eyebolts - vangs, topsail sheets
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
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Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I misundertood which one wefalck meant. Unfortunately I can't see anything about when the 2nd model was built, and by whom -
Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I think it's the same one, but remounted in the 2nd photo. Both are from Aberdeen Museum -
Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
This a photo of the Aberdeen Museum model of "Scottish Maid" referred to by Wefalck. I think that I had seen it before but ignored it, presumably because it looks relatively crude. It does seem to be attributed to Capt John Smith, which makes it rather more interesting if correct. I think it would be reasonable to assume that the basic rig of the vessel is correct, albeit greatly simplified. It would be very interesting to see the model in more detail, but this seems to be the only photo of her on the Museum's website and its staff are on holiday, so are not available to answer any questions. -
mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
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Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I take your point, but I don't think I'll go to the bother of getting MacGregors plans. As I've gone on I've become more aware of the limitations of Artesania's model and if I'd known a few things at the time I was building the model I'd probably have done things a little differently, such as using thinner thread for the rigging. I'm not going to re-rig the ship though. Doing the ratlines once was more than enough! -
mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
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Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Thanks for both of your replies. I've got photocopies of the relevant pages of Macgregors book and in the small picture in it, the rigging of the Scottish Maid looks closer to Petersson's book that Artesania, however it's not easy to tell from one small drawing. I think I'll just try to rig her with something that looks mechanically feasible; probably very much simplified rather than trying to unscramble the position and function of every possible rope. It's clearly a specialist subject that I don't really have the inclination to become too immersed in. -
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gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I would have thought that if you were climbing the ratlines the last thing you would want would be to have them tugged by a brace if the wind gusted. -
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gthursby replied to gthursby's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Thanks for that, Richard. It looks as though Ian followed the Petersson book rather that Artesania plans. This is the first model I've ever built, and I was completely unaware of how much modification the kit would need in order to produce anything even vaguely realistic. -
mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: Scottish Maid (Artesania kit) - where to anchor etc braces
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After a hiatus of around 3 years I'm back trying to rig the Scottish Maid and, as previously, I'm struggling to make any sense of Artesania's rigging plans. I downloaded Petersson's book but recall that it was denounced on here as being very unreliable. I'm currently trying to work out how to rig the braces. The Artesania plans (attached) look to my inexpert eye to look impractical. To attach one end of the foreyard brace to one of the shrouds seems to me to be rather dangerous. Peterssen's book has all the braces passing through blocks on the mainmast which looks more practical,
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mtaylor reacted to a post in a topic: When to attach sails to a model
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I've started to rig my model of Scottish Maid and am thinking of putting sails on her. What is the best stage for doing this? Do I do all the standing rigging first? Should I attach the sails to the yards before rigging the yards? It seems to me that if I put too much rigging on the vessel then I will find lines getting in the way when I try to rig the sails.
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It wasn't supposed to be like this! I bought the kit as a retirement project about 3 years ago (it's been slow going!) and I naively thought that all I would have to do would be to follow the plans and instructions and all would be fine. It soon became apparent that this was not the case; the planking scheme was nonsensical so I had to find out how to do that a bit more realistic. Then I decided to research the ship to make it less anonymous and discovered that the method of locating the bowsprit differed from what McGregor described as the builder's characteristic method and was shown as such
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On the Atesania plans, some lines such as the vangs and topsail sheets appear to terminate at eyebolts on the deck. How would this be done? I'm guessing the the lines are not just tied to the eyebolts. Thanks again to all who have responded to my earlier questions - I seem to be spending more time trying to understand what to do with the different elements of rigging than doing the actual physical work. I think that I'm getting there, albeit slowly, though doubtless there will be many more questions to come!
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