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Hello Maurice I did clean the back of the plates. I am bemused. Cheers Glenn -
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Thanks. I have tried painting and WOP. This morning I have cleaned the area and applied a new WOP coat and have been able to add a few more copper plates, but some still refuse to stick.🤨
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Copper plating the second side of the Harpy has been progressing well, in between my wife's post operative hospital visits, and I reached a stage where there was only 1 or 2 more days work left to complete, as can be seen below. However I have hit major a problem in that the copper plates, when glued in place are simply not adhering to the hull. I have tried a few different things to try to overcome this problem without any luck. The problem is definitely with the surface of the bow section of the hull which is not allowing the ca glue to react, adhere and cure. Clearly I need to resolve this issue but I have no idea what to do for the best as I have already tried several things, such as: a) adding a new WOP coat. b) adding a paint layer c) sanding d) brushing water on hull As can be seen below I have had several failed attempts at adding more copper plates to the hull. Unless I can find a solution I feel I might have to resort to painting the lower section of the hull. This will mean I will have to remove all the copper plates. At the moment I feel this will be lesser of the two evils.
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Copper plating the other side of the hull continues, I have made reasonably good progress today and feel the end is in sight in the next few days. I will be adding a 1mm square batten to neaten up the copper plating along the waterline. For the most part I have made a better job of this side of the hull. I will need to redo the copper plates fitted up to the waterline, as can be seen in the photo below. The copper plates will be buffed cleaned. I will need to revisit on small area, as indicated by the yellow arrow as for some unknown reason I had a senior moment. I also need to replace the upper most right hand copper plate .
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Thanks Mark
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Today I completed the copper plating on one side of the hull. I will add a 1mm square batten along the top of the cooper plates to neaten of the edges. I did a test fit of the rudder assembly. I will need to trim the rudder copper plate sheet to match the hull lines. The following is an insight in to how I went about fitting the copper plates along the water line. A copper plate is offered up to the hull and the pencil mark is made where it meets the waterline. Next I draw a line between the pencil marks. The copper plate is then cut to size, using my guillotine. The next copper plate is marked up and test fitted against its adjacent copper plate. When I am happy with how they look they are glued in place.
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More progress on the copper plating task. I just have to add the infill plates up to the waterline on the first side, as can be seen in the photos attached below. Once that is done I will repeat the plating process (and hopefully I will make a slightly better job) on the other side of the hull. I am using cotton buds, dipped in acetone, to clean the copper plates once they are been positioned. Thankfully there is no sign of any ca glue of the plates that have been fitted so far.
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Looking good
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Dropped my wife off at the hospital this morning, we were told she was last on the list and I was not permitted to stay with her. This meant I was free to return to the shipyard. I think my mind must have been elsewhere when I decided to be clever with shaping the copper plates and ended up making a right mess. I ended up ripping off many of the plates and redoing again. Looks a bit better second time around. Using the copper plate pick-up tool it is a relatively quick and easy task to fit each plate. The hard work will be when I have to shape the plates along the waterline, which will be my last task. My coppering skills are not great but they look alright to my naked eye. I am making some minor adjustments, when necessary, so each layer is offset by half a plate width.
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I have managed a couple of hours in the shipyard this morning. My first task was to copper plate the stern post areas up to the waterline. As the copper plating continues I sometimes need to shape the copper plates, as shown below. More shaping is required for the copper plates which follow the waterline. Progress is slow but steady. I am not sure when I will be able to get back in the shipyard. I might be able to sneak the odd few minutes during the week, but in all probability my next visit will sometime over the coming weekend or early next week. The following photo is the current build status.
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I managed a quick and unplanned 40 minute visit to the shipyard this afternoon and made a start with adding the copper plates. I started the process by printing out a plating template so that I could decide where to trim the stern post edge plates. As can be seen in the photo I covered the first 8 layers and I drew a few lines before deciding where to make the angles cut. The copper plate was then cut to shape using the template as a guide. After a few trial fits I was happy to proceed and as can be seen I have added a few copper plates to both sides. I am using the same method detailed by @Blue Ensign in his excellent Harpy build log and so far it is working very well. Using the pick-up tool each copper plate is picked up. Tackey wax is used to hold the copper plate to the tool, as can be seen in the photo below. Using a cocktail stick a thin layer of ca glue is spread evenly over the base of the copper plate and it is then placed on the hull. A cotton bud dipped in acetone is then used to clean the copper plate.
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Many thanks
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Many thanks Bob
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Many thanks
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Thanks Jim, it has been a shock after so many years being cancer free.
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