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L' Hermione by MESSIS - Artesania Latina - 1/89 - 2nd build
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Amerigo Vespucci by schiffebastler - Mantua - scale 1:84 - Italien sail training ship build 1931
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Chris, I have an esoteric question about Alert. Neither your prototype nor the Peter Goodwin book show a binnacle. Was there no binnacle on the cutter, and if so, where was the compass that the helmsman steered by?
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The one I was asked to develop was a model of the modern full size replica of Hermione, that is the one I am talking about. I was surprised to find that even the smallest detail in decoration was the same as seen in J. Boudroit plans - like the patterns on the quarterdeck rails, overlooking the waist.
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If only - was designed and developed for another company (72nd scale - I think, may have been 64th, cannot remember)
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The modern version of Hermione is, I am quite sure built using the La Belle Poule drawings, as both are near identical, even in decoration. I did this a few years ago, it was the Hemione but after much research, I used all of the J. Boudroit plans to develop the model. Never released, as far as I know...
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From what I understand, all gun ports with lids had the inner sill or lining. I know that Victory shows this on the gun port inner edge sides and top, but interestingly, no step on the bottom (due to the tumblehome, perhaps)?. All gun port openings without lids have a frame that is flush with the hull. Either way, gun ports and lids are a pain on 2 and 3 deckers...
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Please consider 1/48 scale in your future endeavors. We are all aware of the size constraints but the scale allows for such detail and always make beautiful displays given space constraints.
Bob
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Very nice job you have done there.
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So nice to hear from you again Chris. That's a very interesting selection of ship types that you are planning. Wouldn't that cutter or that 5th rate look magnificent in 1/48th scale? Just a thought.
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Hi Chris.
Amati Gun Carriage question:
I think we've 'spoken' in the past when I've been building either HMS Diana or Fly. I'm currently building Vanguard (I'm actually building her ar the 'Billy-Ruffin'). With Fly I discarded the carriages supplied and used Caldercraft ones, which I'd previously used in my HMS Diana. Unfortunately those models are 1/72 scale and so the Caldercraft ones will be too big for the Vanguard kit. Moreover there are 24 and 12lb cannons on the 74s and therefore two sizes of carriage.
I've searched around for carriages from elsewhere without any luck, so I was going to 'put up with' the Amati ones but they do bother me. The cast metal carriages have simulated vertical bands down the carriage sides. They don't appear to be English or French naval pattern.
I visited l'Hermione last year in Rochefort and her carriages were identical to the English pattern – although there's no guarantee that these were acurate to the French pattern of the time.
Are the kit carriages historically accurate for any navy of the time?
Also I'm aware of the two colour schemes (red or yellow) for this era, but I've seen models where the trucks, axletrees and stool bed were unpainted (simulating bare wood) and the side walls only were painted red or yellow, then those vertical straps painted black. I doubt they'd go to that length on a real warship of the time. Have you experience of any carriages painted in other ways than just overall red ochre or yellow, with the metalwork picked out in black and maybe the trucks left bare wood?
Any input you can provide would be welcome.
Cal
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For a first wooden ship build, you are doing a stunning job. Very well done, it looks great!
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I would love to have a permanent model on display at home. I think I will eventually build myself a model of Prince, but with stump masts and in a glass display case.
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Today, by the will of Crom, I recieved this: And these!
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Royal William by pirozzi - Euromodels - 1/70
chris watton replied to pirozzi's topic in Build Logs for SHIP MODEL KITS
Excellent work, very neat! I have always liked this kit, and from a period rarely covered. -
Hi Glenn, Ah, that little area. I am sure I did the same as you. With hindsight I should have added them as pre-cut parts, but the trouble with small curved parts like that, when pre-cut from thick natural wood is that they have a tendancy to break very easily. With that in mind, using a small length of scrap wood strip may be less of a headache. I usually pre-soak the strip and then manipulate the curve using my finger or pair of pliers. If it's stubbern I use heat (holding the bend over a gas hob) I think Revenge is out, and I am sure Victory will not be too long now - although that is a monster of a model... Nice work on your vanguard, by the way, very neat and very clean.
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Hi Glenn, What curved rails do you mean? I know there is a curved capping for the end of the poop upper rail on the 5mm walnut sheet, but I am not sure where you mean for the others. Chris
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