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Mike, will the Frigate Shannon and the Brig Fair American be covered in this final volume?

The release has been delayed a few times already since last summer, but on each occasion, I received a notification from the third party called Purple Dot. But just before the date expired I would get a new notice, advising me of the new later shipping date. But January 21-31 has come and gone, and no new notification. So hopefully they are close! Or they gave up ... [joke] ... and moved to Uruguay, which I hear is quite nice. Here's the last: PRE-ORDER REFERENCE: #PD565894 New estimated shipping date Hi stephen, SeaWatch Books has just let us know that the estimated shipping date for your pre-order has changed: Original estimated shipping date: Jan 5 – 7 New estimated shipping date: Jan 21 – 31 Thank you for trusting Purple Dot with your pre-order. You can always change your mind and cancel for free anytime before your pre-order ships here. Thanks, Team Purple Dot

I second Herr Jaager-meister on the US Corvette Jamestown, or her antebellum stable-mates , the Portsmouth, or the Albany, especially in 3/16" scale.

I read that the battery of twenty-eight new French 18-pounders, cast specifically for the Bon Homme Richard, were instead mounted later on the Alliance, and she used them against HMS Sybille in 1783. P.C.F. Smith, in his book The Essex Papers, stated his belief that the Essex was built to a modified plan of the Alliance.

Yet most of the kits and the POF plans are for the American Revolution, or earlier ... 🤔 Can you imagine if Harold Hahn had drawn POF plans for the President, Essex or Hornet, instead?

Was this the same 14-gun brig Boxer that fought the USS Enterprise in 1813?

From the French site Drouot.com. The 28-gun "La Tourterelle", or "The Turtledove" - a wonderful name for a man of war - was captured in 1795 by the 32-gun frigate HMS Lively. While the two ships seem to have been a close match for each other, Tourterelle mounted only 8-pounders on her lower deck, while Lively mounted 18-pounders on hers. But the stubborn frenchman just didn't want to give up, and only struck after heavy casualties. Historian William James reported 18 dead and 25 seriously wounded. Tourterelle reportedly even used an oven to heat hot-shot in the action, but to no avail. The painting, a watercolor wash on paper, ("lavis sur papier") shows her at the conclusion of the action, greatly damaged, have lost much of her top-hamper. Tourterelle was a sister ship to L'Unite' - later HMS Surprise. Her draught survives in the NMM and is, IMHO, the prettiest sloop there, and she and the painting closely agree on all the details! She was broken up in 1816. https://drouot.com/fr/l/10996015 To see a full screen, click the black bar marked, "Voir les Resultats" ("See the results"), then click the four-arrow tab on the left.

Thanks. I had not heard of the Model Shipyard kit. I do hope Ancre comes out with a Corvette L'Unite/La Tourterelle (later HMS Surprise) monograph. It would sell rather well.

I was just wondering, which kit or commercial plans is ZHL pirating with their 1/48 HMS Surprise kit? That stern doesn't look anything like AL's offering... not that I would buy from a pirate company. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255287475365?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110013%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIMRXI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D258801%2C257689%26meid%3D2aefa5a7f1c04873a4e97957198a1c14%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D395047281386%26itm%3D255287475365%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D4429486%26algv%3DPromotedRVIPbooster&_trksid=p4429486.c101196.m2219&amdata=cksum%3A2552874753652aefa5a7f1c04873a4e97957198a1c14|enc%3AAQAIAAAA8JsbtOKd5uIU0OgsJNCgXCNi9myTAUM6pp1nmm4btdf5dERa5LwsuAyzqy1g%2FLfFz7rodarwgPl8iPfFNjhm%2B4y0UGJYL1Y4IT1zRL6fV1YOCDvZ61H6Pwl7us7XBHYnQdUEleRzFwo76MQAf3kQVFCZzptxghdEAJcSQD0Nr0QcpW5QrYH5a8AMuKmkftgcLsg8hnPu4edMHozjF9Dlxwl93QELBDhum8Zz%2BFQFhLCd%2Fghe7T3z1j07FtwDxbHXPVx7DqKnkWak5iKudT9os9bxMMCN4XP5VTx6N8OuCdeMVuGfqTaPmMinubxrWUNwWg%3D%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A4429486

Delayed another month, alas ... 😥

Olha, I thoroughly enjoy both your, and your husband's Youtube channels! Your video on planking the Confederacy was quite informative, and with the music, rather soothing.

Charlie! You're alive!

Just got this book. Fantastic!

There are a couple of similar ship-rigged, merchant-vessel plans from the 1770's (you can probably count them on one hand) in Howard Chapelle's "The Search For Speed Under Sail". They were taken into the Royal Navy as ad hoc sloops of war. If you see one you like, you can order copies from the Smithsonian Institution for next to nothing.

Got an email update. Looks like it will be delayed until about the first of the year. Oh well. It's the new post-covid publishing normal. Curious. Seawatch graciously included a chapter sample. But it was about a 60 gun ship. I thought volume three was going to be about "cruisers", i.e., frigates like the Shannon, not necessarily fourth rates.

The desire is there too, to build a Vic in a standard scale, like 1/64th. Model companies do come up with some oddball scales ...

The 1813 Lake Ontario wrecks of the USS Hamilton and Scourge show the sweeps stored on the chains/channels. They also show those keyhole openings on the bulwarks of Hamilton. (Scourge had open bulwarks.) Providence had crane-irons built on the poop deck sides just to hold sweeps. HMS Reindeer (a big 400 ton Cruiser Class brig) used sweeps in 1814 to try and weather the USS Wasp.

Morgan, I notice that in your photo of the Victory, post #29, previous page, there appears to be thin netting woven over the shot to keep it in the rack? Was this the contemporary practice, or is it a modern, anti-idiot-tourist device?

RE: the Turner 1806 sketch: A pair of guns on the poop deck?

HMS Ajax is also just a 'typical representative British frigate of the eighteenth century' based on detailed plans from an elusive contemporary technical German book, that was allegedly lost by the company's 'previous owners'. Supposedly, the new company is so eager to document their beloved Ajax, that they are offering a free kit to anyone who can find a copy of this book for them. Sounds like marketing BS to me, but I'm way too cynical, I will admit.

"It is also possible that English shipwrights worried about losing lucrative work to Irish yards, and used any influence they had to stop such developments." That was my suspicion ...

Great information! Thanks guys!

Wow! No responses? Not even a "Frolick you're an idiot! Don't you remember that HMS Victory was originally HMS Shamrock, build at Cork, prior to her name change..."

Or large wooden vessels of any kind, for the pre 1815 period, other than say small working or fishing craft? It just occurred to me that I never heard of one.

Volume three, oh where art thee? 😢