Icarus24 Posted June 30, 2021 Share #1 Posted June 30, 2021 Folks I am in the middle of the restoration of a French 5 masted d France II. This model was never in the best of conditions and I have devoted numerous hours of pain staking work on this project. I have completed the deck furniture and I am getting ready to start the standing rigging. Looking forward at the running rigging I am anticipating up coming headaches. This is do in part because I have no rigging plans for this model what so ever. Yes, it is a monumental task and the closest I have come to what would be rigging plans of a ship of this era is the German ship Preussen. Does anyone have any information relating to the rigging of the France II besides what Wikipedia constantly tells me; which is just the history of this ship. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Hunt Posted June 30, 2021 Share #2 Posted June 30, 2021 Harold Underhill drew a rigging plan for France II, it's available for a small price (GBP9.00) at https://www.skipper.co.uk/catalogue/item/auxiliary-five-mast-barque-france-ii-sail-and-rigging-plan dvm27, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted June 30, 2021 Share #3 Posted June 30, 2021 Incidentally, this appears to be a sailor's model and when I interpret the jumble on the second picture correctly, the model was rigged as a 5-masted ship, not barque. There seems to be also an anachronism, as on the model the shrouds are rigged with dead-eyes, but at that time bottle-screws would have been used. For all ships French I would turn to the Association des Amis du Musée de la Marine in Paris (https://www.aamm.fr). They are usually helpful and also have English-speakers. Arguably the best source on early 20th rigging of steel ships is this (albeit in German): MIDDENDORF, F.L. (1903): Bemastung und Takelung der Schiffe.- 401 p., Kassel (reprint 1977 by Horst Hamecher). The Author was responsible for the design of inter alia PREUSSEN. Bob Cleek, Keith Black, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus24 Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted July 1, 2021 This is an early thank you to the modelers on this web site. I will be pursuing the rigging plans that have been drawn up for this model since I am relying on the Preussen plans, a ship on the same era. And yes, I must concede that this model may in fact be a sailor’s model, but this model was given to me as a challenge. The France II may not have been from a established modeling company, but deserves to be restored to the beautiful lines that she was interpreted by a original modeler. Thanks for the hyper link to the French National Marine Museum. The photos that I have viewed show a gorgeous array ship models and beautiful displays; comparing it to a grainy photograph of France II from the early 20th century on Wikipedia. Thanks again to everyone, for I am relying heavy on artistic interpretation and had no place to turn to for information. regards, Icarus24 Builds: Billing Boats Bluenose Billing Boats Seeadler mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted July 20, 2021 Share #5 Posted July 20, 2021 You would most likely find Harold Underhill's Masting and Rigging: The Clipper Ship and Ocean Carrier, Used copies seem to be readily available through Amazon. There' sone losted for $3.99! That's a steal! https://www.amazon.com/Masting-Rigging-Clipper-Ocean-Carrier/dp/0851741738 mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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