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Rigging in 1855 - Need a Sanity Check Please
Tony Hunt replied to BANYAN's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
That said, if there were three blocks on the mast it would allow both ends of the tackle to be running. If this was set up as Rich has shown on the Kate Cory, with the fall from the upper block running down the starboard side and kept belayed (so in effect a standing end, but adjustable) while the fall from the lower block runs down the port side to the purchase tackle, that arrangement would allow the upper block of the purchase tackle to be kept from jamming against the lower masthead block when lowering the boom (by letting out more line from the belayed end). I suspect that the purchase t -
Rigging in 1855 - Need a Sanity Check Please
Tony Hunt replied to BANYAN's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Hi Pat I took a look at the two lithographs of Victoria, and as I'm sure you know they are both very consistent in how they depict the rigging of the peak halliard - two blocks on the fore and main gaffs and three on the mast, plus presumably a purchase on the fall running down toward the deck. However, this doesn't seem to be consistent with what can be seen in the broadside photo at the SLV - only two peak halyard blocks are visible on the aft side of the doublings of the fore and main lower masts, just below the cap. Unfortunately I can't clearly see the lines leading to the b -
Sensational! (sorry - I was trying to avoid re-using everyone else's superlatives). The model is just so interesting to look at, the case with the backdrop really adds to the whole and brings it even more to life. The research behind the build has been fascinating. I can't blame the fly for wanting to get in on the act. 😁
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Rigging in 1855 - Need a Sanity Check Please
Tony Hunt replied to BANYAN's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Hi Pat Interesting questions - I'll have to think about this! Gut feeling is I don't think the peak halliard would work with two running ends. Perhaps the the arrangement of the blocks should be reconsidered (although the way you've done it does seem logical). Three on the gaff and two on the mast perhaps? It is interesting that they have specified 3 x 10" blocks and 2 x 9" blocks, it's very specific and implies a difference in loadings at various points in the set up. I also think that surely the purchase using the 2 x 7" blocks would be for the throat halliard? I -
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Harriet McGregor by Boccherini
Tony Hunt replied to Boccherini's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Hi Grant I guess the link timed out. Never mind, you shouldn't need a membership - I don't have one! 😁 I got there simply by typing "A Staunch Ship's Sea Story" into the Google search bar. The first link that came up took me straight to the SLV on-line version of the book. Don't get too excited though, it's a pretty "old school" volume, typical of its time. Interesting, but I doubt it will help much with the model. Cheers Tony -
Thank you Thanasis, that's very interesting. For sure, the naming conventions for sailing vessels (especially small craft) are rocky waters to navigate. 🙂 I get the impression that this is particularly true in the Mediterranean region. The maritime history goes back thousands of years, there are so many different countries and languages involved, and numerous different shipbuilding and rigging traditions, all of which has led to an amazing number of different types of vessels that have mixed and evolved over the centuries. Adding to this confusion, at least for Englis
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Yes, I think we're making progress here. I suspect that, just like the "Galiot", the term polacca (in it's various spellings) was applied to some quite different rigs. The ships of Murat Reis the younger may have been the origin of the name but he sailed a long time ago (1570-1641) so that usage has about a much currency as the Galiots! I think the term was applied much more widely over the following centuries. It's worth noting that David R MacGregor also provides a detailed review of the rig (he refers to it as a Poleacre) in pages 130-134 of Merchant Sailing Ships 1815-1850. I
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Well, I'll again refer to Underhill. Pages 70-72 of Deepwater Sail describes a Mediterranean rig he refers to as a Polacca brigantine, a distinguishing feature of which was that it the square rig was carried on a pole mast (hence the name) with no tops or cross trees. There is a model of one in the Royal (National) Maritime Museum at Greenwich, see below, interesting that it is a British-registered vessel. SLR 0662 Scale: 1:48? A modern exhibition style waterline model of the merchant brig ‘Peter & Sarah’ (circa 1809) built plank on fr
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For sure, galiot is a term that was applied to many ship types, not an uncommon thing. However, I'm not convinced that the term jackass-rig is really applicable - as John notes, these are Mediterranean rigs and therefore may well have their own, quite specific names. Re #2, unfortunately the foresail is masking the transition from lower mast to topmast. In the photo it looks like they don't quite align implying the topmast is fidded, but that may just be an optical illusion. My point being, that if it is a pole mast then perhaps this is an example of the rig referred to in the Me
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It's a poor form of discussion when the first resort is to denigrate anyone who disagrees with you. Poorer still to double down on that. And just for the record, I've done many thousands of miles at sea, under sail. 😀 Anyway, jackasses aside 😁, back to rig #2. On further reflection, it rather resembles a Galiot (per the model below), although the hull looks much more Mediterranean than North Sea, and I think the Galiot was very much a rig of the North Sea and the Baltic. I am sure that all these rigs had local names, it would be interesting to know if there was a formal nomencla
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A lubber? Good day to you, sir.
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Harriet McGregor by Boccherini
Tony Hunt replied to Boccherini's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Happy New Year Grant. I've long admired Underhill's plans for the Harriet McGregor, so it's great to see a model of her being built. Particularly as it is such a lovely piece of craftsmanship, too! By the way, the book about the Harriet that was briefly referred to is available on-line thanks to the Sate Library of Victoria - see http://digital.slv.vic.gov.au/view/action/singleViewer.do?dvs=1609571372804~241&locale=en_US&metadata_object_ratio=10&show_metadata=true&VIEWER_URL=/view/action/singleViewer.do?&preferred_usage_type=VIEW_MAIN&DELIVERY_RULE_ID=10&
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