Gjøa 1872 by Harvey Golden - Roald Amundsen's Cutter built at Rosedahl, Norway

[Harvey Golden]

1 hour ago, Lecrenb said:

Can't say for sure about Gjoa, but on St. Roch there is a cleat adjacent to the traveller for belaying the sheet. This cleat does not show up on kit plans... perhaps pictures from the Fram museum, or asking them on email, might help?

Thank you Bruce! Yes, the museum may have some info on that detail-- figured I'd try here first. Wefalck has generously shared some photos of the Gjøa at the museum, and alas, the traveler itself is not even place (probably a tripping hazard, as the ship is open for visitors). Best, H-

[Harvey Golden]

34 minutes ago, Steggen said:

I´m no expert on rigging and struggle a bit with the correct terms in English, but if you look at page 71 in the linked document you will find an illustration of the "ørefik".     ...    https://fartoyvern.no/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/5-21_Jelse_THD_v1_MH-SS.pdf

Thank you Steggen! This is very helpful. I'll have to take time to digest (and translate) this. I see figure 111 has a line labeled Ørefiken, and it is shown (unlabeled) on the plans I have. Seems to have good info on the traveler as well-- thank you again!  H-

[Harvey Golden]

4 hours ago, Lecrenb said:

Can't say for sure about Gjoa, but on St. Roch there is a cleat adjacent to the traveller for belaying the sheet.

I just saw your build of the St. Roch-- that is a lovely model!!! I've been aboard at the VMM some years back, and it is good to see it preserved.  First, I know very little about handling ships like these, but the idea of a fixed cleat for a sheet connected to the traveler seems like it would restrict the movement. I had been thinking maybe it was cleated to a cleat affixed to one of the lines adjacent the blocks, or something like that-- figure 117 in the paper Steggen linked to shows a variation of this, where the cleat is affixed directly to a block. Now I'm wondering what the cleat is for on the St. Roch (also wondering how wrong I am about all of this 😉). Thank you again!  H-

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[Siggi52]

Hello Harvey,

a nice model you build there. I have one question, how did you attached the boldrope to your sails. I'm trying at the moment to build the sail for my Gokstad ship, and tryed to sew the boldrope to my Silkspan sail. It did't work ☹️ Did you glue it on and with what?

[Harvey Golden]

11 hours ago, Siggi52 said:

how did you attached the boldrope to your sails. ... Did you glue it on and with what?

Thanks Siggi! I used archival pva glue to attach the bolt ropes.  Just a line of glue along the sail edge, then push the rope against it; once it is situated properly, I elevate the glued section to dry (ensuring it doesn't adhere to the table).  I just do about 4-5 inches at a time. Hope this helps!

H-

[Harvey Golden]

Flying Jib, Jib, and Foresail are all up and sheeted. I used Dr PR's method of making the hanks on the foresail, as noted on his build-log of the Albatross-- thanks Phil!  The Øerifiken continues to perplex, particularly with regards to its purpose, and is so far omitted. I've got a book en-route that will hopefully help. The sheeting of the foresail on the traveler is made exactly like that in the paper Steggin linked to on the previous page-- one with a cleat mounted right on the side of the lower block. The foresail also has a downhaul rigged with a light line. The falls are mostly glued to the proper pins-- will be adding separate rope coils soon. Here are some pics: 
The model's keel is 1-1/2" above the floor (on the stand), and the mast tops out at over 36" high-- my usual work-space is too small for this model, so I've moved it to the living room floor (I live in a 1913 corner grocery store, so a very spacious living room with 11' ceilings). I've been working on the rigging for the gaff and boom, attaching anchor points for blocks on mast, boom, and gaff. More line and more blocks have been ordered. . . going through this stuff fast!

H--

 

 

[Lecrenb]

On 8/2/2025 at 10:22 AM, Harvey Golden said:

I just saw your build of the St. Roch-- that is a lovely model!!! I've been aboard at the VMM some years back, and it is good to see it preserved.  First, I know very little about handling ships like these, but the idea of a fixed cleat for a sheet connected to the traveler seems like it would restrict the movement. I had been thinking maybe it was cleated to a cleat affixed to one of the lines adjacent the blocks, or something like that-- figure 117 in the paper Steggen linked to shows a variation of this, where the cleat is affixed directly to a block. Now I'm wondering what the cleat is for on the St. Roch (also wondering how wrong I am about all of this 😉). Thank you again!  H-

Thank you Harvey... 

The sheet can be let out port or starboard depending which end of the traveller the block is up against. When the sheet is trimmed it is belayed to the cleat. Hope this helps!

Bruce