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Intriguing. One can only hope it will not be destroyed, but unfortunately big money seems to be involved.

At the battle of Hogland (1788) the Swedish fleet disengaged with all or most ammo spent, so they certainly ran that risk.

And another one found, this one from the end of the 16th century found on land in Stockholm. There’s plenty of buried old wrecks due to post-glacial land rise and hulks used as filler for man-made land reclaiming, but this wreck was relatively large and previously unknown. Built of pine from Hälsingland, which made identification easy: the only one fitting the records was the Samson, a Royal armed merchant built in the transitionary phase with mixed building styles. Sorry in Swedish, (and sorry it’s facebook), but there are some pics at least: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2705387142816085&id=129042917117200 The wreck has been documented and then covered and protected for the future.

Typos are as old as typography =)

Some boards of the aftercastle remains in place (seen in the video in the link), and it is clinkerbuilt just like on the later large warships of the first half of the 16th century. It also appears to have the rusty remains of two iron guns(one on each side), still sticking out through their ports. And there is at least one more gunport further forward and another further aft, though without guns. This makes me wonder if she is actually a small warship (or at least commisioned as such) as opposed to a merchantman as reported in Swedish papers, my guess is from the period 1500-1550, or even 1520-1570 (lots of naval activities in this area in this period, which should increase the probability of her having been parked down there). Six guns sounds too much for a merchantman of this size and age. I wonder what made them date her to the turn of the century (1500 that is), at least I can see nothing definite that would place her around either 1500 or 1550, for example. Anyway I bet they are wetting their pants in excitement over getting some wood up in order to date it, so we’ll know soon enough. And yes, that’s a pump alright, and the deck of some platform can be seen around the foremast, which well could be that of a forecastle (it is wider than the hull forwards).

The recently found Mars (sunk mid 1500s), as well as Elefanten from the same time, also had round-tuck sterns and were carvel built. Gribshunden, which sank 1495, was built in the same way. Carvel became the dominant form of construction of larger ships in the Baltic during this time, but it is interesting to see a smaller ship built in the same style. —- Fabulous find- Even the boat is still there. I’ve been contemplating building a 16th century carvel ship, but with the rate they are currently uncovering new wrecks and how they were constructed my model would be built on obsolete information by the time I finished...

Oh, wish I’d seen that earlier - that is one opportunity not occuring often

This was put on hold due to an upcoming move - I did not want to raise the mast before moving across countries. The move got postponed and postponed again. And now I am tired of its unfinished state. If the move does come and the model breaks, ah well, at least I tried and I’m truely sour how I bungled the deck planking anyway - I see the rest as practice. I added the mast and have begun with the shrouds. The upper dead eyes were connected to hearts (or whatever is the English term? - the white teardrop things) as was common in those days, and the shrouds looped around the hearts. How I made the hearts I do not remember, but the brackets are all brass. I have attached the first shroud on each side: now I’m trying to find out just how hard I should pull before permanently attaching the lanyards.

To be honest I skipped every paragraph that started like that, as well as the simplistic «Viking» ship popular descriptions: I saw mostly the pictures, but they speak volumes :D

Wonderful Although interesting in itself, all those articles were more about 3D-scanning than the ship. It is maybe similar to the Galtabäck II wreck, which appears to be the same type of ship, from the same area and from within the same decade (or two). This period saw rapid changes in ship building though, and seems more intact than other wrecks, so this will generate interest for sure. And yes they did use iron nails at the time, alongside wooden, but they stay together anyway. At that time the boards were often fastened together with iron nails, while the frames, which were added later, were fastened with wooden ones. They say it is clinker built, but from the scan it looks like the uppermost boards could possibly have been built carvel style. That I have only seen on a single other wreck (also second half of 12th century), so that would be interesting to see more details about.

I’m not sure why there is a change on MSW - if there really is a change that is, but in general it is quite expected that modellers gravitate towards plastic. Plastic has a considerably lower threshold than wood, less tools are needed (although I’m sure some think that is a negative attraction point ), it is much faster to build and less practice is needed before you reach good results. Unless you go really bonkers with aftermarket it is also considerably cheaper (per kit, but maybe not per time, come to think of it). And yes, I enjoy both.

Beautiful Did I understand it right, that you print the wax, make a mould and then cast the final propeller, or am I missing something? What kind of material can you print the wax in?

I am as speechless as this is flawless. Thank you for sharing!

Indeed rigols - I've seen them made in a few logs on the forums on shipmodelinfo, where they make mostly modern boats, maybe you can find ideas there? Etching or casting would maybe work? Here is another view: Mariefred alongside quay in Mariefred I see darker pixels indicating carvings or reliefs inside them, but not more than that - how large would these things be on your model? Edit: I found a picture where you can see some detail, taken after the fire in 1980 before rebuild (you can search digitalmuseum.se for hundreds of old pics by the way): https://digitaltmuseum.se/011015402462/fo124957dia/media?i=291&aq=owner%3A"S-SMM"+text%3A"mariefred"

I just strolled right in... might have changed since I moved but I got similar responces when I was living there. I think people just don't know about the place, it's a bit of an oasis, only minutes from the busiest areas of the city (this goes for Skeppsholmen too ). As a sidenote, this is where the Stockholm tar came from, the name of the place means "Tar isle". It does might be tricky to access the "parking lots" though, as they are usually fenced - but maybe one can get close enough for pics?