paul ron Posted February 2 #1 Posted February 2 im rigging a clipper flying fish 1/8" and just starting to get my game plan ready to rig. the mast tops show holes for fareleading running lines, but which lines use these holes? when getting a tour of other square rig ships i noticed these lines but forgot to ask what they were for. any of you old salt know? Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote
AON Posted February 2 #2 Posted February 2 Masting and rigging the Clipper Ship and Ocean Carrier by Harold A. Underhill, pg72 fig. Plate 15, at the top of the Royal Mast shows a sheave for the Royal Tye at the top just under the truck and head (or pole). at the top of the Topgallant Mast is a sheave for the Topgallant Tye. At the top of the Topmast under the trestle trees and cross trees is a sheave for the Upper Topsail Tye. Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
allanyed Posted February 2 #3 Posted February 2 Paul Ron Have you studied Ed Tosti's Young America build log? Not sure, but it may be of some help to you. If not, his Young America 1853 Volume III on rigging probably will give some help to you. Allan mtaylor, Keith Black and paul ron 3 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
paul ron Posted February 2 Author #4 Posted February 2 (edited) i have Underhill s book n no mentions of what or where any lines going through the holes are for. these holes are through the platform of the lower mast top. i was guessing maybe bunts that fairlead to the shrouds n down to the rails. ill check the build logs. thanks Edited February 2 by paul ron Keith Black 1 Quote
paul ron Posted February 2 Author #5 Posted February 2 (edited) underhill pg 136 section on running rigging talks about fairleads but nothing specific, only a general description of various lines using fairleads. btw... these holes are through the platform of the lower mast top. i was guessing maybe bunts that fairlead to the shrouds s n down to the rails. ill check the build logs. thanks Edited February 2 by paul ron Keith Black 1 Quote
allanyed Posted February 2 #6 Posted February 2 PaulRon I just looked at Ed Tosti's build log and he does go into detail about lines passing through fairleads in the tops and shrouds. Allan Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
paul ron Posted February 2 Author #7 Posted February 2 (edited) i cant find the log. can you post a link to it? im having trouble searching the forums. i did google and found this fellow wrote several books on the young America. very impresive. i think we are on the right track. Edited February 2 by paul ron mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
popeye2sea Posted February 2 #8 Posted February 2 Look at plates 36 (page 204), 37 (page 208), 38 (page 214), and 39 (page 218) in Underhills book and you will see diagrams for allocating all of the fairleads for the running rigging. Regards, Henry mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci
paul ron Posted February 3 Author #9 Posted February 3 that is the pin rail locations also showing the lines had fairleaders... not showing the mast top holes. perhaps this will help... maybe im not asking the right question Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote
Solution allanyed Posted February 3 Solution #10 Posted February 3 (edited) Paul, The link is https://modelshipworld.com/topic/3453-young-america-by-edt-finished-extreme-clipper-1853/#comment-96388 or you can go to the search box and type in Young America. Once you open it the rigging is far down in the topic (after page 100) Allan Edited February 3 by allanyed Keith Black, mtaylor and paul ron 2 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
paul ron Posted February 3 Author #11 Posted February 3 (edited) thanks allan. im sure ill enjoy it. i love what everyone does here. well i scanned through 120 pages and all i can say is... WOW WOW WOW! im going to read it all this week as i get started on my standing rig. omg! thanks allan. Edited February 3 by paul ron mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
allanyed Posted February 4 #12 Posted February 4 We are all here to help each other Paul, glad to be of at least a little help. Cheers Allan Knocklouder and mtaylor 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
popeye2sea Posted February 5 #13 Posted February 5 (edited) On 2/2/2024 at 7:34 PM, paul ron said: that is the pin rail locations also showing the lines had fairleaders... not showing the mast top holes. perhaps this will help... maybe im not asking the right question Perhaps I have a different edition, but my copy of Masting and Rigging the Clipper Ship has a diagram of those fairlead holes on page 218. Regards, Edited February 5 by popeye2sea allanyed, paul ron and mtaylor 2 1 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci
paul ron Posted February 5 Author #14 Posted February 5 wow i didnt see that one. ill check my book later. thats exactly what im looking for. thanks. mtaylor 1 Quote
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