PvG Aussie Posted June 22 #1 Posted June 22 I see many excellent 'tall ship' models being built but I would say that possibly 50% don't have sails even though the rigging is often in place. What are your thoughts? 🤔 GrandpaPhil and SiriusVoyager 2 Quote PvG Aussie (Peter) Started modelling Jan 2022. Joined MSW March 2024. Quote: Rome wasn't built in a day! Current Build: Piececool The Queen Anne's Revenge 1:250 Metal Past Builds: Artesania Latina (AL) Belem (1:75), AL Vasa (1:65), Scratch build Australia II BOTTLE (1:225), AL Bluenose II (1:75); AL Bounty (1:48), AL HMB Endeavour (1:65), Trumpeter Bismarck (1:200), Border Models Avro Lancaster Bomber (1:32), AL Fokker Dr1 (1:16), Das Werk WWI German U-Boat SM U-9 (1:72); Scratch build HMS Victory BOTTLE (1:530), Wolfpack PBY-3 Catalina (1;72), Scratch build MS Sibajak 1928 BOTTLE (1:1150), Imai Kagaku Spanish Galleon 1607 (1:100), Brandenburg State Yacht 1679 (1/200), HMS Endeavour (1/450) BOTTLE, ILK USS Enterprise (CV-6) (1/350), PLUS approx. 13 more ships in bottles.
Dr PR Posted June 22 #2 Posted June 22 (edited) Many models without sails do not have the running rigging associated with the sails. This is most of the rigging on a sailing vessel. Without the sail running rigging the model may look under rigged. There will be a lot of unused belaying points (cleats, belaying pins, etc.). If you want to include the sail running rigging without the sails you can. There are procedures for hooking together the halliards, sheets and tacks on fore-and-aft sails, and tying up the square sail sheets, clewlines and other lines. This was done before actually hauling up the sheets so all the lines would be in place. So you can rig most of the running rigging without actually adding the sails. Adding sails is a controversial topic. Many models have cloth sails that are ridiculously out of scale (thickness and weave of cloth, stitching, etc.) and just look silly to some modelers. If you use thin materials with no visible weave and avoid oversize stitching and such, sails can enhance the model. Another problem with sails is that they obscure a lot of the details on deck. To resolve this problem many modelers furl the lower sails, either partially or completely. This is not unrealistic because sailing vessels often did this to reduce sail to slow down. Or you can rig the sails as the vessel would be in port with all of them furled. Edited June 22 by Dr PR catopower, CPDDET, Jim Lad and 4 others 7 Quote Phil Current build: USS Cape MSI-2 Current build: Albatros topsail schooner Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model
rwiederrich Posted June 22 #3 Posted June 22 Furled sails are best when done realistically. Tightly furled sails represents those on ships in port for lengthy times. GrandpaPhil, Pitan, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
rwiederrich Posted June 22 #4 Posted June 22 Or fully set with internal access available for detailed viewing. mtaylor, davyboy, PvG Aussie and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
Solution ah100m Posted June 23 Solution #5 Posted June 23 It's A LOT more work to add the sails, but I think it's worth it. It's a SAILING ship, right? On my Revell Constitution I furled the lower fore and main sails as suggested above which allows most of the deck details to be seen. CPDDET, davyboy, Pitan and 4 others 7 Quote
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