Staghound 1850 by rwiederrich - 1/96 - Extreme Clipper

[rwiederrich]

Thanks guys.... I can regain my focus and clarity.  Last couple of days I've been distracted by home repairs.  My sweetheart wants to redesign the master bedroom in the French country style.   Good thing I know where to keep my focus.

 

I'll be getting back to Staghound soon.  Sneaking in a little work hear and there......

 

Rob

[ClipperFan]

12 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Thanks guys.... I can regain my focus and clarity.  Last couple of days I've been distracted by home repairs.  My sweetheart wants to redesign the master bedroom in the French country style.   Good thing I know where to keep my focus.

 

I'll be getting back to Staghound soon.  Sneaking in a little work hear and there......

 

Rob

Rob,

Mon Dieux! Is she thinking along the lines of Louis IX, the "Sun King" like the Palace of Versailles or more subdued like Monet's Garden Home in Giverny?

[rwiederrich]

Not quite sure Rich.   
 

Well everyone, I’ll be out of town till Monday.   So no updates. 
 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

I did just a little today thus far.   Added the port access way and steps.   Not all of McKay ‘s ships had these access ways.  
 

Rob

[Rick310]

Looks good Rob!

Rick

[ClipperFan]

Rob, 

This looks exactly like it is on the Buttersworth piece. Nicely done!

[rwiederrich]

15 hours ago, Rick310 said:

Looks good Rob!

Rick

Thanks Rick.  Those steps are tiny little things.

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

11 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob, 

This looks exactly like it is on the Buttersworth piece. Nicely done!

Thanks Rich.  Moving slowly along the hull...adding details, I just decided it was next.  Working from inside the hull I will drill the holes for the mooring fairleads...locating them, then finish up from the outside adding their sleaves.  I then can place the cavils and bitts.   Things have been a bit slow.  I'm prepping to remove the veranda off of our front porch, because it leaks. That will be an all day, Saturday job.  Repairing and reroofing the front porch, and rerailing the French doors.  Our master bedroom has  large French doors that go out onto the veranda.  I have also been helping my wife remodel the bedroom...prior to this.

 

Rob

Edited yesterday at 12:42 PM by rwiederrich

[rwiederrich]

By the way Rich......what's up with that extended  fantail railing on the Buttersworth painting?  It extends all the way to the main channels.  Now who is fudging the facts.....Buttersworth, or every other known drawing and painting of Staghound....?  If there is a railing there...then that must mean, there is also decking there...if that is so....then somebody is in serious error, and her deck plan is not as we suspect.  Duncan McLean's description and Cheppelle's drawings are in conflict with Buttersworth.  Also note the impractical location of the midship mooring fairlead opening.  It is right under the railing.  If the fairlead is just at deck level...where the planksheer is...and the bulwark is roughly 6ft....why an additional 18" railing?  And how is the fairlead even accessible if there is a deck over it?  To many booboo's.

Just sayin....

 

Rob

Edited yesterday at 02:42 PM by rwiederrich

[ClipperFan]

7 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

By the way Rich......what's up with that extended  fantail railing on the Buttersworth painting?  It extends all the way to the main channels.  Now who is fudging the facts.....Buttersworth, or every other known drawing and painting of Staghound....?  If there is a railing there...then that must mean, there is also decking there...if that is so....then somebody is in serious error, and her deck plan is not as we suspect.  Duncan McLean's description and Cheppelle's drawings are in conflict with Buttersworth.  Also note the impractical location of the midship mooring fairlead opening.  It is right under the railing.  If the fairlead is just at deck level...where the planksheer is...and the bulwark is roughly 6ft....why an additional 18" railing?  And how is the fairlead even accessible if there is a deck over it?  To many booboo's.

Just sayin....

 

Rob

Rob,

I don't always put much stock in the full accuracy of Buttersworth all the time. It can be maddening to try and reconcile such issues. It makes no sense to have safety rails beyond the aft poop deck. Duncan McLean, a sailor himself and friend of Donald McKay listed the aft poop deck as 44'. That dimesion is repeated in several other reliable articles. I would disregard those extended rails as being inaccurate.

[Snug Harbor Johnny]

51 minutes ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob,

I don't always put much stock in the full accuracy of Buttersworth all the time. It can be maddening to try and reconcile such issues. It makes no sense to have safety rails beyond the aft poop deck. Duncan McLean, a sailor himself and friend of Donald McKay listed the aft poop deck as 44'. That dimesion is repeated in several other reliable articles. I would disregard those extended rails as being inaccurate.

   Besides, one should take into account the "preponderance of the evidence".  A datapoint that is an 'outlier' from the bulk of the evidence has relatively little weight ... and artists are known to use 'artistic license' at their discretion.  

[rwiederrich]

Finished adding the steps on the port side and finished the starboard side too. 
 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

Added a few more details. 
 

Rob

[ClipperFan]

12 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

Finished adding the steps on the port side and finished the starboard side too. 
 

Rob

Rob, bordering each side of the entrance to the main deck on USS Constitution 'Old Ironsides' there are these 2 beautifully carved gangway boards. They project slightly above the cut-out gangway entrance. I'm not suggesting you try to do any carved boards, just that you might appreciate seeing these.

[rwiederrich]

8 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob, bordering each side of the entrance to the main deck on USS Constitution 'Old Ironsides' there are these 2 beautifully carved gangway boards. They project slightly above the cut-out gangway entrance. I'm not suggesting you try to do any carved boards, just that you might appreciate seeing these.

Those are beautiful.  typically...those were removed when at sea and preparing for battle.   Some modelers retain the boarding ladders on their clippers...such as Flying Fish and Flying Cloud.  However, these egress ladders were quickly removed when the ship set sail....and they surely were not present when the ship was encountering foul weather.....such as I will be depicting Staghound..(Mimicing Buttersworth's painting).

 

Someday I wish to visit Mystic and then go see the Constitution myself.

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

15 hours ago, Snug Harbor Johnny said:

   Besides, one should take into account the "preponderance of the evidence".  A datapoint that is an 'outlier' from the bulk of the evidence has relatively little weight ... and artists are known to use 'artistic license' at their discretion.  

This is exactly what I am saying when it comes to artist interpretation of other ships as well...such as the Great Republic...which has been poorly represented with incurring features from her original configuration and those of her rebuilt state.  A whole lot of Mixin and matchin...has taken place...and if you are not a student of her history, you can easily be fooled by what the artist has painted.  This is evidence that even Buttersworth, had either bias or ignorance.....or is just being an ARTIST.  Since Buttersworth has a proven history of making small errors.  One must, as it has been pointed out......skillfully use all data points...preferably first hand accounts.

 

Rob