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I started the kit from Artesania Latina as it shows quite  interesting and beyond what I have done so far. Because there are videos on the internet with the construction steps, what I will post on this blog will only be when I find something interesting or add something that is not included in the kit.

For start, I decided to nail the boards to break up the monotony of the decks simulating the nails with fishing line. What a tiring and arduous task, but I finished it successfully.

And as soon as I finished it, it occurred to me that I have 6 more.😱

 

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The first planking is complete. Because the AL Oak paint is quite glossy for my taste, I applied a coat of Mr Hobby flat clear.

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I think the nails from fishing line looks pretty good.

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Nice work.

 

Watch out for the gunport and entry port frames, being around 1mm they are delicate and the ears that locate on to the dowels are easily snapped off!   Fortunately they have plenty of other contact points.

 

Gary

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Your photos raise a question, hope that is OK.  When were futtocks connected with scarphs like your kit and when were chocks used?  I read that  scarphs went out of style around 1700 and chocks were then used until early in the 19th century when the Seppings system.  came into use.  Were all methods used throughout the 17th through 19th centuries?

Thanks

Fritz

 

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On 12/1/2024 at 1:00 PM, Morgan said:

Nice work.

 

Watch out for the gunport and entry port frames, being around 1mm they are delicate and the ears that locate on to the dowels are easily snapped off!   Fortunately they have plenty of other contact points.

 

Gary

Thank you, I will keep that in mind.

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On 12/1/2024 at 1:39 PM, Fritzlindsay said:

Your photos raise a question, hope that is OK.  When were futtocks connected with scarphs like your kit and when were chocks used?  I read that  scarphs went out of style around 1700 and chocks were then used until early in the 19th century when the Seppings system.  came into use.  Were all methods used throughout the 17th through 19th centuries?

Thanks

Fritz

 

Thank you. It's difficult for me to answer since I don't have sufficient knowledge. Maybe another member who knows can give an answer.

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John,

I did more research and the frames in the kit are incorrect for Victory in several aspects, including ignoring using scarphs instead of chocks.  From what I could find scarphs were used instead of chocks in earlier centuries on large ship frame building.

Fritz

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30 minutes ago, Fritzlindsay said:

John,

I did more research and the frames in the kit are incorrectly for Victory in several aspects, including ignoring using scarphs instead of chocks.  From what I could find scarphs were used instead of chocks in earlier centuries on large ship frame building.

Fritz

Just to jump in.  Artesania Latina have followed the John McKay HMS Victory Anatomy of the Ship, he uses a mix of scarph and chock joints at different cross sections along the hull, even on the same frames, but he uses scarphs only for the mid-section frames.  I doubt McKay knew what was actually used as it is mostly covered up unless under reconstruction as she currently is, and there will be an element of conjecture.  Having visited the ship several times during this period of reconstruction all frame joints that I have witnessed have been scarphed, albeit these are all above the waterline.

 

Gary

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Thanks Gary,

 

Pages 376-378 in the Sim Comfort publication of David Steel's The Elements and Practice of Naval Architecture describes the use of chocks when discussing constructing frames and there is a full set of plans for each of the futtocks for 74 and 98 gun ships of of 1802 at RMG that show the chock locations rather than scarfs .  I cannot find any other contemporary based information so far, BUT, seeing is believing.  That you saw the scarfs in place of chocks is another reason I hope to get to visit her one day.   Thanks for sharing!

 

Fritz

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These days I have made quite a bit of progress with the construction but I found a point where there is a rather serious error. The hole for the pump falls on one of the horizontal beams. I studied the entire previous process again to see if I have made a mistake somewhere but it seems that here it was probably not foreseen correctly by ARTESANIA. However, with a little care I will scrape the beams so that it is possible for the pump column to pass through.

 

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