Kenchington Posted March 16 #31 Posted March 16 49 minutes ago, palmerit said: A shot of the faring from underneath Beautiful job on the stem to bottom-planks joint! The transom/knee/bottom should be fine once planked over, but it does confirm the worry I had earlier. But those frames! I am so glad that the Model Shipways dory had frames secured to a building board. I do not envy you having to sand and bevel with them standing up like that. Trevor Ryland Craze, palmerit and robert952 3 In progress: Norwegian sailing pram, by Model Shipways Completed: 1880 Gloucester halibut dory, based on Model Shipways Lowell banks dory
palmerit Posted March 23 Author #32 Posted March 23 The kit has you add temporary supports to stiffen the frame on the build board while planking. Adding one of the garboard planks (after beveling the upper end). Will let the glue dry before adding the other garboard. robert952 1 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted March 29 Author #33 Posted March 29 Slow progress on the Dory - just haven’t had time to work on any models. Added a couple more planks. The Midwest Dory is twice the size of the Model Shipways Dory (about the same length as my Sherbourne). robert952 and Desertanimal 2 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
Desertanimal Posted March 29 #34 Posted March 29 Didn’t realize it was so much larger. I’ve seen other build logs and it never clicked that they can get more detail on them. Chris robert952 and palmerit 2
Kenchington Posted March 29 #35 Posted March 29 7 hours ago, palmerit said: The Midwest Dory is twice the size of the Model Shipways Dory They are different boats, modelled at different scales. The Model Shipways one is a 15ft dory (dory sizes being measured as length of bottom, not overall) at 1:24. A 15ft dory is a two-man boat and towards the large end of banks dory sizes. In the 19th Century, they were used in halibutting, while the cod fisheries used smaller dories. I'm not sure but that may have changed before the end of the Canadian dory-schooner fishery in 1963. The Midwest dory is modelled at 1:12 and looks to have a 13" bottom. If so, it represents a 13ft prototype, suited to the banks cod fishery or else fishing along the shore, but still a two-man boat. It also looks to have much stronger sheer than the Model Shipways one, so a different design within the same overall family. But, either way, yours is coming along nicely, Palmerit! Trevor palmerit, robert952 and JacquesCousteau 3 In progress: Norwegian sailing pram, by Model Shipways Completed: 1880 Gloucester halibut dory, based on Model Shipways Lowell banks dory
palmerit Posted March 30 Author #36 Posted March 30 Finished planking. Kenchington, robert952 and JacquesCousteau 3 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted March 31 Author #37 Posted March 31 Released the Dory from the build board and sanded areas that needed to be flush. robert952, Scott Crouse, aaronc and 2 others 5 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted April 2 Author #38 Posted April 2 Adding the first part of the gunwale. Scott Crouse and JacquesCousteau 2 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
John Gummersall Posted April 2 #39 Posted April 2 Really nice work so far...... Who says you can not have too many clamps? 🙂 robert952 and palmerit 1 1
palmerit Posted April 4 Author #40 Posted April 4 Completing the bulwark and gunwale. robert952, ccoyle, Bryan Woods and 3 others 6 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted April 8 Author #41 Posted April 8 Finished the gunwales and added the risers. robert952, JacquesCousteau and Ryland Craze 3 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted April 8 Author #42 Posted April 8 Thwarts (seats) dry fitted. They’ll be glued in place later, after painting the interior. Not sure if I’ll paint or stain the thwarts or just seal them. robert952, aaronc and Kenchington 3 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
Kenchington Posted April 8 #43 Posted April 8 Looking good! palmerit and robert952 2 In progress: Norwegian sailing pram, by Model Shipways Completed: 1880 Gloucester halibut dory, based on Model Shipways Lowell banks dory
palmerit Posted April 13 Author #44 Posted April 13 I started airbrushing the Dory. I found a couple sources for some colors and after playing around with some colors in my stash I decided on Vallejo Model Air 71.135 Chrome Yellow for the inside and most of the outside, Game Air 76.123 Angel Green for the gunwale, and I’m doing the garboard and bottom in Model Air 71.271 German Red Brown. I don’t know if it’s a combination of airbrushing and the model being basswood but it’s been hard to paint over pencil marks I had made. With my Sherbourne (offwhite Vallejo Air on pear wood) I didn’t have trouble covering the pencil marks I made). I ended up painting with a brush to get a thicker covering over the pencil marks and I will do more airbrush coats. https://goodmorninggloucester.com/2009/03/22/dory-buff-dory-paint/ Scott Crouse, aaronc, JacquesCousteau and 1 other 4 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
Kenchington Posted April 13 #45 Posted April 13 Dories and "dory buff" paint are still very much a living tradition in Nova Scotia. Human memories fade, of course (though not as quickly as the pigments in 1920s marine paints 😀), but I've never heard of anyone doubting that all Lunenburg schooner's dories were buff with green trim. That's just the way to was and still is. Trevor robert952 and aaronc 2 In progress: Norwegian sailing pram, by Model Shipways Completed: 1880 Gloucester halibut dory, based on Model Shipways Lowell banks dory
palmerit Posted April 14 Author #46 Posted April 14 (edited) I know that yellow is not quite Dory Buff color, it was the closest I had in my paint staff. The green was in the ballpark. I think I saw some photos of some Dorys with some reddish undercoat on the garboard and bottom and just went with it. Edited April 14 by palmerit robert952 1 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
Kenchington Posted April 14 #47 Posted April 14 Whatever floats your boat! There's plenty of full-size dories on this coast that are not in the traditional colour scheme. robert952 1 In progress: Norwegian sailing pram, by Model Shipways Completed: 1880 Gloucester halibut dory, based on Model Shipways Lowell banks dory
palmerit Posted April 16 Author #48 Posted April 16 Painted the lower plank and bottom of the Dory. Scott Crouse, ccoyle and robert952 3 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted April 17 Author #49 Posted April 17 Progress on the airbrushing. Ryland Craze 1 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted April 17 Author #50 Posted April 17 Need to do a bit of touch up on the paint. robert952, JacquesCousteau, Kenchington and 1 other 4 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted Sunday at 12:57 PM Author #51 Posted Sunday at 12:57 PM (edited) I'll need to make and paint my oars and I've been researching paint/stain schemes. The Midwest kit instructions say "Thwarts, Oars, Mast, and Boom - Clear", which I assume just means putting a matte varnish on the oars. I might do the same. I have some stains I could try to use too. I also saw a model that had them painted the same yellow as the interior. This great build (of the Model Shipways kit) just has the oars plain, I think stained and weathered: I just noticed that the Model Shipways Dory kit optionally recommends adding leathering (simulated with thin paper painted a leather color) that I might add to these oars. I had completely missed that that was in that Dory's instructions when I built it. I did add them to the oars when I did my Pram since they're a clear step in the instructions. Edited Sunday at 12:58 PM by palmerit robert952 and aaronc 2 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
Kenchington Posted Sunday at 01:29 PM #52 Posted Sunday at 01:29 PM 25 minutes ago, palmerit said: the Model Shipways Dory kit optionally recommends adding leathering I don't think I have ever seen (full size) dory oars leathered. For one thing, there's not much need, when they are worked between (rather soft) thole pins, versus metal crutches. For another, in the days when dories were rowed in the ordinary course of a day's work, the oars were disposable items. (Even the dories did not have long working lives, when battered about on the decks of schooners.) Each to their own, of course, but I didn't leather the oars of my dory model. I will leather the ones I put into my pram. Trevor palmerit 1 In progress: Norwegian sailing pram, by Model Shipways Completed: 1880 Gloucester halibut dory, based on Model Shipways Lowell banks dory
palmerit Posted Sunday at 02:01 PM Author #53 Posted Sunday at 02:01 PM 31 minutes ago, Kenchington said: in the days when dories were rowed in the ordinary course of a day's work, the oars were disposable items That might also be why most of the photos - of models, of real Dorys - have plain wood oars. robert952 1 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted yesterday at 03:06 AM Author #54 Posted yesterday at 03:06 AM Testing out some stain colors (on scrap basswood) for the thwarts (seats). Leaning toward colonial maple (far left) I think. Might try some other stains I ordered. Saw that Dory oars are often made from white spruce. Don’t know if the thwarts would be the same. JacquesCousteau, Ryland Craze and aaronc 3 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
palmerit Posted 5 hours ago Author #55 Posted 5 hours ago (edited) I picked up a couple more stain colors (these are the small 8oz), gunstock and ipswich pine. Edited 5 hours ago by palmerit robert952 1 Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Grand Banks Dory (Midwest Products) In the Queue: Oseberg (Ships of Pavel Nikiten), Zulu 1900 (Vanguard Models), Endurance (Occre), Syren US Brig 1803 (Model Shipways), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Endurance (Lego), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways)
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