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2 hours ago, DavidG said:

what to say.. 2200 USD

It certainly is expensive.

 

Lego is releasing a new $1000+ Death Star Model with nearly 10,000 piece - that I'm sure my son would love and he'd probably finish in a few days. 

 

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Who are these models for? They seem too big and complex for beginners (and certainly too expensive). But people who have already built a few ships often want better quality materials, more accurate scale, and something that resembles the real ship, without being overly simplified.

 

When I first started this hobby, I also looked at these ships and thought...wow, I want to build something like that too! But then you realize you have to start with something smaller. As you slowly grow into the hobby, you realize that these kinds of larger kits don't actually look that good at all. They use strange materials (oak for the frames?!) and so much is scaled incorrectly and oversimplified. Okay...if the price were even remotely reasonable, but at this price...when you see what the new companies are making for this, how much better and more accurate it is with better materials. Why still use cast metal? So weird...and the marketing gimmick with a limited edition and a "special" coin (perhaps just to drive up the price). I wonder if the development team behind this actually has a passion for ship models, or if they're more interested in creating a "fun big puzzle."

 

It's certainly not my thing...and so I wonder...what target audience is this designed for?

Edited by Ronald-V
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Occre made a partworks Soleil Royal for Altaya / Planeta around a decade ago. They didn't change a single decoration part for this "new" model, they just added some more frames and made them in oak.

 

Everyone can choose where to put his money, but...

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I’m still very new to the hobby (just a couple of months in), so please take this as just an observation rather than a seasoned opinion.

 

It seems to me there are really two types of advanced kit modelers.  (1) Those who want something highly decorative for display, with shiny brass fittings, luxurious dark wood and lots of visual impact.  (2) Those who aim for extremely accurate models, using materials like pear wood and features such as white hulls, in the tradition of late 18th-century Admiralty models.

 

They’re really two different markets, but both are presenting an idealised version of a ship. After all, no vessel ever had polished brass and gold chains, but likewise, no ship ever had a perfectly brilliant white hull either.

 

From a newcomer’s point of view, it’s actually encouraging to see that there’s more than one way to approach the hobby at a high level, depending on what someone values most.

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  The 1:65 deAgostini Vasa kit, with all its packages + shipping + tariffs will still undercut the Occre Soleil by $600, and may be a better kit.

Completed builds:  Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe

Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65

 

 

 

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