HIPEXEC Posted March 25, 2014 Share #1 Posted March 25, 2014 Help! I need help gluing this 2mm wide by 5mm high toprail to a 3.5mm wide gunwale. I can't imaging this arrangement holding together while I rig this model. It will run 3/4 around the whole ship. Any and all ideas welcome. Rich Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 25, 2014 Share #2 Posted March 25, 2014 Definitely consider some sort of mechanical fastening. I would suggest a wooden fastening or a bamboo fastening, but the brass pin will work. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted March 25, 2014 Share #3 Posted March 25, 2014 Also suggest a two part epoxy glue in combination with the above. Horrible stuff to work with but near on unbreakable. Epiglass Epiglue the very best of these two part glues. I hate it but when you use it right the wood will fail long before the glue does. Cheers Alistair Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogeygolpher Posted March 25, 2014 Share #4 Posted March 25, 2014 Great answers. I have used both wooden dowels and brass rods with similar results. I definitely suggest you use epoxy as the adhesive, CA did not hold well when the joints were stressed. You can drill into the top rail from the bottom up, not breaking through the upper surface, and be left with a blind joint, no visible hole. You will also face this issue when attaching any pin rails in that you will probably want to reinforce them for the same reasons. Quote PROWE If someone says something can't be done, it only means they can't do it. Building:Shipyard - HMS Mercury card madel Completed Builds: Wood Models; AL Bluenose II 1989, Corel Toulonnaise 1995, Corel Flying Fish 2000, AL Scottish Maid 2005, Sergal President 2010, Mamoli Beagle 2011, Corel Eagle 2013, Mamoli Constitution Cross-section 2014, Victory Cross-section 1/98 by Corel 2015, Occre San Francisco Cable Car 2018, Model Shipways Armed Long Boat 2021 Card Models Christmas Train by PaperReplika 2012, Yamaha DSC11 Motorcycle 2013, Canon EOS 5D Mark II 2014, WWII Tiger I Tank by Paper-Replika 2014, Wrebbit Mercedes-Benz 500K Roadster 2014, Central Pacific no. 60 Jupiter card model 2015, Mirage III 1/30 converted to 1/33 card model 2017, TKpapercraft 1912 Mercer 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted March 25, 2014 Share #5 Posted March 25, 2014 I agree with the suggestions given above. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aferox Posted March 25, 2014 Share #6 Posted March 25, 2014 Agree with the epoxy and pinning. I also usually add some stripes of CA to help hold things in place while the epoxy dries. Quote Current builds: Santa Maria (multi-kit bash), Constellation (AL) Past builds: Beagle, Thermopylae (restoration), Blue Shadow, Wappen von Hamburg, Half Moon, America, Golden Hind Ships in bottles (some): Marco Polo, viking ship, Prince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanh Posted March 26, 2014 Share #7 Posted March 26, 2014 I usually pin using a countsunk nail, filling the head to mak it invisable if its to be painted and superglue high viscosity type in situations like this. Quote Norman Current build Trumpeter Arizona 1:200 with White Ensign PE and a Nautilus Wooden Deck. Built Caldercraft Convulsion, HM Brig Badger and HMS Snake. Awaiting - Zvelda HMS Dreadnought planning to get the Pontos Deck and PE Upgrades, Panart 1:23 Gun deck model and couple of the cannon kits Manatu - French siege mortar, and American coastal cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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