sygreen Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share #61 Posted August 20, 2014 Finished the planking of the deck and it looks pretty good . Pics to follow. I now have to sand or file the edges of the deck planks so it is flush with the deck Problem I'm having is that I am getting fraying of the edges. What do I do to avoid the fraying?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted August 20, 2014 Share #62 Posted August 20, 2014 What do you mean by frayed? I dampen the deck planks with water and rubbing alcohol and trim them with a scalpel. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share #63 Posted August 20, 2014 The edges are cracking when I sand them. Casey, that sounds like a good method . I'll try it cdogg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted August 20, 2014 Share #64 Posted August 20, 2014 Make sure you sand along the grain of the planks. If you try to do it across the edge you will splinter them. sygreen 1 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishface Posted August 23, 2014 Share #65 Posted August 23, 2014 oh yes pics please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share #66 Posted August 23, 2014 Here are my pictures My inexperience is beginning to show as I have made a few mistakes The overall look is pretty good as you can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share #67 Posted August 23, 2014 However my mistakes are showing up 1. I marked where the masts go but I should have made the openings as I I assembled the planks. Now I am worried about slintering when I drill the holes. What is the best way.to do this? 2. As you can see I splintered the edges in several place. How do I fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share #68 Posted August 23, 2014 Mike warned me that the splintering would be a problem so I trimmed the excess on the edges first. I was still left with a very small amount of excess and when I sanded it, I obviously paid a price for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share #69 Posted August 23, 2014 Another question : the instructions say to better define the planks by outlining them with pencil. I thought the deck is painted and wouldn't this hide the outlining anyway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted August 23, 2014 Share #70 Posted August 23, 2014 Oh no, the deck isn't painted. Varnished yes. Real shame about the splintering because you have done a good job so far. Don't worry though, by the time you have put the rest of the deck structure and bits and pieces on it really won't show much. Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted August 23, 2014 Share #71 Posted August 23, 2014 Just a thought, keep it coming with the pictures. Sometimes it is easier to spot a mistake before it happens and we only want to help. sygreen 1 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share #72 Posted August 23, 2014 Thanks Mike, I have been trying to complete a step in the instruction book first and then send pictures. I will take your advice and post much more frequently. You have been of great help up to now. Much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted August 23, 2014 Share #73 Posted August 23, 2014 You are very welcome. It's nice to anticipate a problem before it happens and having had my fair share with the same boat which was my first go I know how easy it can be to get disheartened. You are doing just fine! Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted August 23, 2014 Share #74 Posted August 23, 2014 sygreen, you build looks good. For the planks, take a pencil to the top side if the desk plank you will have facing up, this will help define the division of planks and look like deck caulking. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share #75 Posted August 23, 2014 For the planks, take a pencil to the top side if the desk plank you will have facing up, this will help define the division of planks and look like deck caulking. Not sure what you mean by the "top side of the desk plank facing up" - confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted August 23, 2014 Share #76 Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) He means one side of the plank, use a pen(black if possible) to define the caulking. This will help to show the decking with spaces. Hope this helps. foxy Edited August 23, 2014 by foxy cdogg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share #77 Posted August 24, 2014 Great idea foxy, I guess I will do that on my next build as it is too late on this one. Nice to learn the technique . That is the great part of this site, is that I am constantly learning new and better ways to do things ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share #78 Posted August 24, 2014 Foxy, Will the black lines fade when you do the sanding to smooth out the surface? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted August 25, 2014 Share #79 Posted August 25, 2014 Sygreen, it should be fine. Only problem I had is the pencil lead smudging because if my fingers. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share #80 Posted August 25, 2014 Casey, Do you think it would be better to wait to pencil it until right before I varnish the deck? Might smudge it with MY fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted August 26, 2014 Share #81 Posted August 26, 2014 Maybe. But I will pose a question, if you varnish the deck before placing the deck components and housing, make sure you know what kind of glue you'll need to fasten these over the varnished deck. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share #82 Posted August 27, 2014 Ha, you are correct as usual. I am outlining the deck now. Should have done it as I was gluing the planks as it is more difficult to get it straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share #83 Posted August 29, 2014 Here is a picture of my deck outlined I had a hard time keeping the lines straight. I guess it does look like it was done by hand , similar to how it was done originally I hope it does not look too bad. Again inexperience shows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share #84 Posted August 29, 2014 Now comes the hard part. The first layer of planking. I am a bit confused by the instructions. Let me know if I have it right. First I put #27 flush with the deck starting at the bow. I will need to curve the 1x6 plank prior to gluing. I plan on using an electric plank bender. How long do I soak the plank in water prior to starting. Should I make vertical slits in the plank to prevent breaking?? What is the best way to secure it to the deck while the glue is drying? Then I should line the inside of #27 with the same deck material that I used on the deck(#28) but only from the quarterdeck to the start of the bow. Correct? Then I get really confused. I then mount a piece of planking (#29) on top of #27 from the stern to ??? How far does it go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harbm Posted August 29, 2014 Share #85 Posted August 29, 2014 It looks beautiful sygreen. I'm back after a bit of absence and will start updating my log too. The advice about avoiding splintering was especially useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygreen Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share #86 Posted January 1, 2015 Hi everyone, I am back !! Had spinal fusion surgery and have been recovering. No time for my model. However, doing well now and it's time to restart this project. I am just starting the planking. Questions: What is the best way to hold piece #27 in place while I glue it. Anyone have an idea or picture What is a good article review to help me with hull planking for the first time before I begin?? Good to be back but I could use some help GuntherMT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted January 2, 2015 Share #87 Posted January 2, 2015 Welcome back, what is piece 27? Also, there are planking tutorials on the site, do a search. They are pretty good. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted January 5, 2015 Share #88 Posted January 5, 2015 For planking, look here - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/439-planking-tutorials/ Can't help on your other question, I don't have this model. Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted January 6, 2015 Share #89 Posted January 6, 2015 I just looked it up. For #27 just bend it with water, let it dry in the shape you need, and then wrap it parallel with the front piece, not the middle deck. The side will go about 3mm above the sides to make a railing. Make sense? Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimz66 Posted January 6, 2015 Share #90 Posted January 6, 2015 This is looking good. WOW Casey Minnesota North Stars. Now theres a blast from the past. ha hah Quote Current/But Not immediate Build Logs I am still gathering the tools I need but starting preliminary work. Nothing to show just yet. Fair American Armed Virginia Sloop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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