Drazen Posted March 4, 2013 Author #31 Posted March 4, 2013 Elmer Cornish, flying_dutchman2, FrankWouts and 8 others 10 1 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 4, 2013 Author #32 Posted March 4, 2013 ... again, filling inbetween the wood... Dražen Archi, tarbrush and Elmer Cornish 3 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 4, 2013 Author #33 Posted March 4, 2013 In the meantime, I had a water ingress in the cellar. The tables were damaged but the ship did not get any harm. Dražen Archi and Elmer Cornish 2 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 4, 2013 Author #34 Posted March 4, 2013 Some correction was needed. Due to relaxation of the plywood after cutting (in the very beginning), the shape of the ship moved for approx 1.5mm. Dražen Elmer Cornish 1 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 4, 2013 Author #35 Posted March 4, 2013 After grinding, ready with this part of the job. Dražen Archi, Foremast, Elmer Cornish and 2 others 5 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 4, 2013 Author #36 Posted March 4, 2013 Can you now recognize the De Zeven Provincien? Dražen coremke and FrankWouts 2 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
amateur Posted March 5, 2013 #37 Posted March 5, 2013 Can you now recognize the De Zeven Provincien? Dražen We certainly do! Jan FrankWouts 1 Quote
JanV Posted March 5, 2013 #38 Posted March 5, 2013 Good to see you back here Drazen Quote Jan V. current build: Vasa-1628 Corel / Battle Station Mantua/Panart, previous: Statenjacht / Cross section HMS Victory / diorama shipyard
Bruno Siljeg Posted March 5, 2013 #39 Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) Hello Dražen,a very good beginning,nice work,and Russian modelmaker Narim Maygeldinov also working in model De Zeven Provincien but in Admiralty representation.A few weeks ago my ship model Friesland 1663 is finish,pictures is posted in gallery completed kit built ship models.Best regards... Edited March 5, 2013 by Bruno Siljeg Quote
Anja Posted March 5, 2013 #40 Posted March 5, 2013 ... making wood to fill in the places between the bulkheads. I will have a more or less solid hull as a base for planking. Dražen Hello Dražen, This is something I've never seen done before. But never mind ..... It looks great. Well done! I'm looking forward to see more of this build. Keep up the good work and take care, Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo
Drazen Posted March 5, 2013 Author #41 Posted March 5, 2013 Bruno, what is the base for your model (Friesland) in the gallery – which plans did you use? Is it a scratch or a kit? Can I (we) see the project Narim Maygeldinov is doing? I am curious also about his sources (plans, etc.) since this is one of thebiggest issues in my build. How does he mean to do it in admirality – Dutch did not have so strict rules like e.g. English ships? But, maybe a Dutch ship model showing the construction underneath... could be interesting. A great book about Dutch shipbuilding (I also have it) is by Ab Hoving: "Nicolaes Witsen and Shipbuilding in the Dutch Golden Age" Dražen garym, Archi, charlie0510 and 2 others 5 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 5, 2013 Author #42 Posted March 5, 2013 Anja, really nice to have a woman following my build - great! My method is historically not right, but gives a very solid base for ewerything what will be seen by eyes on the model - and this what will be seen will be historically right - at least I will try to do so. There is a similar method (for me with some drawbacks) our Russian colleagues (Dr. Mike) are using. They also get a solid hull. if you do not show the inside of the ship, and I will not, this makes the life easier. Dražen FrankWouts 1 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
amateur Posted March 6, 2013 #43 Posted March 6, 2013 Bruno, what is the base for your model (Friesland) in the gallery – which plans did you use? Is it a scratch or a kit? Can I (we) see the project Narim Maygeldinov is doing? I am curious also about his sources (plans, etc.) since this is one of the biggest issues in my build. How does he mean to do it in admirality – Dutch did not have so strict rules like e.g. English ships? But, maybe a Dutch ship model showing the construction underneath... could be interesting. A great book about Dutch shipbuilding (I also have it) is by Ab Hoving: "Nicolaes Witsen and Shipbuilding in the Dutch Golden Age" Dražen The book by Hoving is great, I have the Dutch version. The drawings that come with it are also somewhere on the net (I lost the link, as it was in the old MSW) The Friesland in the gallery is based either on the kit of mamoli, or at leat, those are the drawings used. These drawings are loosely based on the drawings that come with the book of Winter (Dutch two decker of 1660), which are in turn based on the old (and now lost) model of a Dutch two-decker in the Berlin Stadschloss before the war. Jan . Quote
Foremast Posted March 6, 2013 #44 Posted March 6, 2013 Bruno, what is the base for your model (Friesland) in the gallery – which plans did you use? Is it a scratch or a kit? Can I (we) see the project Narim Maygeldinov is doing? I am curious also about his sources (plans, etc.) since this is one of the biggest issues in my build. How does he mean to do it in admirality – Dutch did not have so strict rules like e.g. English ships? But, maybe a Dutch ship model showing the construction underneath... could be interesting. A great book about Dutch shipbuilding (I also have it) is by Ab Hoving: "Nicolaes Witsen and Shipbuilding in the Dutch Golden Age" Dražen Hi Drazen! You're doing a very good and interesting work, I'll have been following your steps. The drawings attached to this book show a Pinnace (another amazing typical Dutch ship) but every single word in the text is useful for several Dutch ship of the XVII century. Alex Quote If any of you cry at my funeral, I'll never speak to you again! (Stan Laurel)
amateur Posted March 6, 2013 #45 Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Link to the drawings to the Hoving book: http://nautarch.tamu.edu/shiplab/images/ Jan Edited March 6, 2013 by amateur Archi and Foremast 2 Quote
Foremast Posted March 6, 2013 #46 Posted March 6, 2013 Link to the drawings to the Hoving book: http://nautarch.tamu.edu/shiplab/images/ Jan You deserve a monument, Jan! Alex Quote If any of you cry at my funeral, I'll never speak to you again! (Stan Laurel)
Foremast Posted March 6, 2013 #48 Posted March 6, 2013 Not me, Ab does Jan You both, then! Alex Quote If any of you cry at my funeral, I'll never speak to you again! (Stan Laurel)
Bruno Siljeg Posted March 6, 2013 #49 Posted March 6, 2013 Hello Dražen,my ship Friesland is Kit build model,plans from Mamoli inItaly.Modelmaker Narim Maygeldinov is started model ship De ZevenProvincien,But the Russian forum has not released pictures,probably soon.He uses plans Otte Blom.http://otteblom.vedor.nl/tekeningen/. Foremast and Archi 2 Quote
sonicmcdude Posted March 6, 2013 #50 Posted March 6, 2013 Welcome back Dražen, and thank you for sharing your build, again! Quote Greetings, Sinan Build log:TRITON POB 1:72
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #51 Posted March 6, 2013 ... controlling the shape of the hull with help of the templates. I needed also to add some material on few places. Dražen tarbrush, Archi and Elmer Cornish 3 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #52 Posted March 6, 2013 Here is my tool for drawing horizontal lines Dražen Archi, Teach., Elmer Cornish and 2 others 5 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #53 Posted March 6, 2013 ... and here the tool for the vertical lines. Dražen Elmer Cornish and tarbrush 2 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #54 Posted March 6, 2013 Status February 2012, - one year after the start. The hull has been corrected and is now ready for the next steps. Dražen tarbrush, Archi, garyshipwright and 4 others 7 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #55 Posted March 6, 2013 .... transferring gunports from the plan to the hull. Dražen tarbrush, Archi and Elmer Cornish 3 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #56 Posted March 6, 2013 Making frames for the gunports Dražen tarbrush and Elmer Cornish 2 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #57 Posted March 6, 2013 For cutting wood I used the drill press as a circular saw. Now I have the Proxxon FET and this is much (much!) better solution. Still I needed to change some things on Proxxon FET in order to improve the function. Dražen Archi, tarbrush and Elmer Cornish 3 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #58 Posted March 6, 2013 ... templates for the gunports.- in order to have the same size. Dražen tarbrush, Elmer Cornish and Archi 3 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #59 Posted March 6, 2013 making the gunports Dražen Archi and tarbrush 2 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
Drazen Posted March 6, 2013 Author #60 Posted March 6, 2013 Here is the construction drawing of a gunport. Dražen tarbrush and Archi 2 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves.
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