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Hi everyone, I am a bit hesitant to open my first build log, as I am a complete novice to boat modelling, but have opted to post my progress on-the-go in case other newbies can benefit from the perspective of digging into a new hobby. On a whim, I purchased the San Francisco S. XVI second-hand. I've always secretly dreamt of trying my hand at modelling, and finally found the space, time, and finances to allow such an indulgence. Interestingly, some online posts note that the original SF model only has one layer of hull planking, whereas the SF II is double-planked. However, my specific model (AL 20408) definitely features a double-planked hull, leading me to believe that it was released sometime between the original SF and the SF II. In many ways, this definitely does not appear to be the best option for a beginner's model! I only started reading up on boat modelling techniques after the purchase, and soon realized that the San Francisco S. XVI poses some peculiar complexities. Secondly, the original owners had already started building the galleon, and even with minimal research it was possible to detect some basic errors that had slipped in. Thirdly, I am fully prepared to find that the opened box may have parts missing, when it comes down to the crunch. That being said, I can't help but feel that all these downsides actually removes quite a bit of pressure to "get things right". No doubt I will make many more mistakes, the best of teachers. But it's less stressful going in, knowing that I did not fork out a fortune and can practice new techniques and try out different tools on a second-hand kit. I've slowly been buying the essential hand-tools to get going, holding off on buying more expensive tools until I know exactly what I want or need. Progress will likely be slow, as I do work two day jobs, but I do plan to post updates as things come along. And so the journey begins!
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Good day, So it starts. I purchased the San Francisco in a hobby store in Ottawa Canada. This is perfect for practicing and learning my new hobby. As well as won't have to contend with planking a full hull. I'm using carpenter glue in this case. It dries Yellow-ish so I'm not sure if this matters or I should just use the normal white PVA. I'm planning to use Legos for squaring. I used Legos years ago to square other wood projects I did..so why not.
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I wanted to forget a memory that I lost some parts of the Papegojan 1627. 😱 The AL San Francisco Cross Section may heal my wounded heart. Because of the kit's unreality, its assembly ability is extremely good. I would say that children are able to build this kit without much difficulty. I added some temporary planks (yellow arrows) to harden the frame's shape. The 1st planking is done. At this point, I decided to change the second plank from stock sapelle to my Asian pearwood. After some trial and error, I made straight strips using a laser cutter. As I said, the kit has many fatal errors. It just combined every detail that people might like. - The ladders (Red) are too slow, and the width is narrower than shoulder width. - The grating frames are on the beams (Blue). - The cross sectional diagram is not realistic (Green). I referred to the cross sectional diagram from the contemporary wreckage ship. ( Source : https://albaola.org/proceso-de-construccion/ , https://www.patrimoniocultural.gov.pt/media/uploads/trabalhosdearqueologia/18/22.pdf ) But, I stopped in the middle of modification. I didn't want to pay more than a month for this kit, so I left the cross sectional diagram incomplete. Also, I I cut the beam to expand the space for grating frames. The thicker beam was part of the modification for realistic structure. By the way, I decided to skip the ladder. I thought it made more sense. This is an internal painting. I applied a cherry-colored gel stain. The outside and cross section are Asian pearwood. I love the pink wood. The next step will be gunports.
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I just got this from amazon today and can't wait to get at it. The box was a little damaged and had been opened previously so I think it was a return. The contents were well packed and still in the original shrink wrap so I think it will be fine. I have only found a couple of build logs for this one and none of those were done to completion so I guess I am on my own on this one. I can already see quite a few changes/"improvements" that will make this an interesting build for me. As others have pointed out historical accuracy is not what this kit was made for. I will get started in earnest tomorrow night. Hope to see you all then.
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Hi Ship Builders, Happy new year of 2023. Please check out my latest youtube build video, the Artesania Latina San Francisco 1:90. The build started on October 23, 2022 and finished on December 31, 2022. Please enjoy. Sorry, I did NOT have text and photo build log for this build. However, I will provide image/text build log for the next build. Thank you.
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This was my very first build. It is the original version of the San Francisco, not to be confused with the San Francisco II, there are slight differences, the main one being the hull which is double planked with basswood and Sapeli veneer, whereas the San Fran II is single planked with mahogany. I didn't like the gun carriages that came with the kit and with help from other members made my own which were more in keeping with the era of the ship. I also made changes to the rigging, the kit instructions, for me, were too simplified so I did a lot of research and added more accurate rigging. I learnt a lot from this build and she now sits in pride of place in my lounge. The box: The Box: Inside the box: First the bulkheads were dry fitted, checking for fit and adjusting if neccessary before gluing in place. It is important to make sure the keel is straight and the bulkheads are at a 90deg angle to the keel to prevent problems with planking later.
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I swore I wouldn't start building another kit before at least one of my other multi-year projects was finished, but I'm remodeling and so much more space opened up in my apartment for ship models, welp, we all know how that goes. Artesania Latinas Cross Section of the San Francisco in 1:50 scale is one of their older kits, meant to supplement the discontinued first edition of the San Francisco full model kit. Comparing the cross section to the new full model re-release, there's some noticeable differences between the ships, mainly regarding the placement of the gun ports. Side by side they don't even look like the same ship anymore. The kit is unsusal in that it does something I've not seen with any other cross section kit and that is replicating sheer. There's a noticable height difference height wise along frames not only on the bulwark but also along the middle and upper deck. On the other hand, there's no visible camber to the decks. You win some, you lose some I guess. The kit came out about the time that Artesania Latina realised instructions should probably be a bit more detailed than a list of parts and "Glue all of these things together, good luck, mate.". We get some nice booklets, one for the hull and one for the masts and rigging both weighing in at about 20-30 pages. Construction starts with the framework. The frames are preformed and not built up like in other kits, which makes things easy, but a bit basic looking and unrealistic. This is a recurring theme throughout the kit. Ease of the build takes preference before realism. The lower deck is glued in and planked. Again things are simplified, there's no keelson, no drains, no pumps, nothing, just a hole in the ground for the mast.
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Today I received the san Francisco hull section kit the instructions look very nice as do the parts. The only thing so Farsi the planking, it is very thin so I may replace it. When I figure out how to add pictures I will.
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Well here goes nothin. Decided to brave a build log for my San Fran. My first ever build (John Alden sloop) was posted when finished. It may not have even been finished had it not been for another MSW member (rlb) who was gracious enough to re-post his pics after the the "great crash". Again, I thank you. I have questions (already...lol) about my SF so I thought it might be time to pick the brains of those in the know. In the pic below, I have arrows pointing to the area of the bulkheads that I am concerned will make the planking go awry. As you can see the blkhd (#s 4-7) does not transition around to the keel area in a smooth circular fashion ( as in the case of blkhd #3) but rather curved then semi straight then curved again. My question is, Does this area need to be removed to make a more smooth transition or will it not affect the planking too noticeably? I was looking on the SF build of vulcanbomber (Caroline) and it did not appear to have been removed. If it needs to be removed, I think it best that I do it prior to gluing the bulkheads. Yes? No? The other question I have (and it might be a dumb one) is the arrow at the rear top (transom area?). This appears it will need to be level with the false keel.
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