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Augie - I am out of town for 3 days and now I have just returned. My first act (after kissing the Admiral) is to check up on new posts in MSW. And I come here and there are no new pictures!

Wow! a pic of the master piece. He has been holding back on us. Augie it was worth the wait.

Popeye - That cartoon reminds me of something I heard in the news today. Some lady in England found an unexploded bomb in her yard from WWII. Do you know what she did before she called the authorities? She washed in in the kitchen sink. She was quoted to say "It was quite dirty". LOL

So when my admiral feels the need to clean something when there are other more important things to do. I ask her if she is washing the bomb. She gets mad but she gets the point.

Keith - is this another example of "Their is always a good woman behind the man"?

Thanks Russ, I actually thought it was the rats. But what you say makes sense.

Well then its a family! LOL

And who Plays the role of the Black sheep member? Hmm so many possibilities.

Bob - Its funny that you mentioned the Jensen book. As soon as I saw this post that is exactly what I went looking for. Still recovering from the move. Unfortunately I loaned the book to a club member and can't remember who. The only comment I can make is this - On my model (which was rigged when I did have that book) the line is tan. It does make sense. We all know that the lines that are black are that way because they were soaked in tar to discourage rats. And the running rigging was not so that it would go thru the blocks. In this case I seriously doubt a rat would be out there on what is essentially a running backstay. There is also the Sail to consider. No self respecting Captain would stand for ugly black stains on his biggest sail.

So I would vote for tan.

By the way all this wonderful work on the Bluenose has me thinking of breaking one of my cardinal rules and redoing mine. There is so much excellent work here!

I believe one of the selling features that MS advertises is access to this site and support from Chuck.

Augie - I am as fond of good natured kidding as the rest of you. But I truly want to see your build. How do I find your posts on the build with all the crazy stuff on this thread? I plan to finish my Harvey this year and then get back to my Syren. I am following you very closely to see what there is for me to learn.

Chris - You could make a wonderful kit of just the ship's boats. Very nice! I especially like the oars. I find it hard to get them to proper scale and look right. since the cannon barrels are white metal. How do you plan to blacken them? Just paint?

All I can say is good eye! That is quite a rake for PoBII. No wonder they lost most of their rigging when the bow sprit broke off France a few years ago. I may have mentioned that this model has been with me for more than 10 yrs. Actually closer to 20. it has now been thru at least 2 moves. There was a time when I was a new to this hobby that I stated the build just following the plans. Now that I am a more experienced beginner I am looking at the build more critically. I mention this because I had already shaped and assembled the masts. I even drilled the holes for the masts. So I am not sure what I will do.

I can tell you that in my new house my build table is right here next to the computer and she is calling to me. She sits in the vice ready for me to finish the 2nd layer of planking. Now all I need to do is find the Dremel.

Per I think you are one who prefers smoked meats and barbeque more than anything even Modeling?!! But I have to agree the absolute best way to serve Salmon is to rub some of your favorite spices into it and then plank it on Cedar. I just had some Copper River Salmon prepared this way and sitting on the deck of our new house. It felt so good!

Pat - Wow! I am very interested in this topic. But I also must protest. I work all day around computers and one of the attractions of modeling is the lack of IT technology. now you tell me it has invaded here to! Oh well  . I want those cannons!! and I second another comment - Figure Heads!!!

Model Expo has figures that are 1:64. I used them and painted them for my crew.

Kester - So that is how you have survived so long! A little dose of radiation adds to your life expectancy.

LOL!!! where do I find this book?

Will do Blackie. I think it will be another week.

^{Jim - You are correct. I meant to say warship not surface ship. And Jim I want to publicly apologize to you I am so far behind on my email to you!!}  

^{With my new job and new house it has been a bit crazy. I just got my internet working today. I promise I will catch up.}

I like the changes you have made in the bow sprit. The kit calls for the martingale to go thru the bow sprit and act as a flag staff. This is totally wrong. First it weakens a critical spar at just the wrong point. I believe the model was designed by someone who has never seen a true sailing ship. Also the kit calls for lots of chain. Again this would have been very heavy at the wrong point and very expensive for the time period. I can't wait to finish unpacking and check the lengths of my masts etc.

Blackie - Thanks for the responses. I am going to take a look at my deck plan and make some changes. We move to our new home this week, so it may be another week before I can get back to the model. Are you planning to have her with full sails? What reference did you use for the Rigging? I was just today looking at a picture of the Baltimore Clipper II under full sail. I see that as you mentioned she has 3 shrouds and a backstay. I think you have this part correct. I am going to enjoy watching your rigging. Are you going to add the stun sail booms? I see them on the BC II.

I am afraid she is going to be broken up. As you probably know she has 13 reactors inside her. They must be removed. in order to do this they will have to cut thru the deck and the hanger deck. Once this is done she will be quite a mess. It would be too expensive to restore her in any meaningful way. So she will be cut up.

I am not sure when the last time you drove by the Bremerton Yard. But many of the ships you mention have been cut up. I haven't been there in a year or so. but all the Carriers are now gone. Most of the subs are also gone. It used to be amazing to drive by there. If you knew what to look for there was an amazing array of important ships there. Many of them had quite a history.

Unfortunately it has little value for modeling. The grain is not fine enough.

On a slightly different note - Did you know that the USS Enterprise has recently arrived in Newport after her last deployment. She now begins a 2 1/2 yr project to remove her core and reactors. during this project she will be towed around the horn to the Naval shipyard here in Seattle and the broken for scrap. She is the oldest warship in the US Navy currently on deployment. She is also the first atomic powered surface vessel.

It took me awhile to get the language. But once I did I was hooked. completed that one and Hornblower as well. Currently working my way thru Dewey Lambdin's Alan Lewrie series.

_{You are absolutely correct. If I ever need to get inside the display case it takes 2 people to carefully lift it high enough to clear the mast.}