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KLarsen replied to James Flynn's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
The profile views on the left part of the plans only show one side because both sides have the same curve. The left part of the drawing is from midships aft, the right side from midships forward. The curved lines correspond to the vertical lines on the side view of the ship. You'll have to identify them one by one to see which corresponds to which if they are not identified. Regarding the "D" shape I suppose you're referring to the bow? By taking the lines as I explained above you should automatically get the bow shape, though you might have to extrapolate to get the intermediate frames not shown. Are you building the ships as plank-on-frame (POF) or plank-on-bulkhead (POB)? POF is quite difficult and requires you to do "lofting", getting the curve of all the frames using all the lines on the plans. -
I decided to go ahead and fully plank the platform as well as install all the panels separating the rooms and corridors. I'm well aware that it'll hide a lot of the details like the lantern room, but it seemed the best way to show how cramped the ships interior was. I'll also install the bulkhead behind the platform (the lower plank is already in place) even though it will completely hide the sail room behind. With this, I can install the last deck beams for the orlop deck and decide how much to plank it, whether entirely or just a few planks.
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I'm finishing the munitions and lantern room and planking the platform above them. I haven't decided if I'll fully plank that deck or not, planking it will completely hide the lantern room but will make it easier to install the bulkheads above. I'm also fitting the beams for the orlop deck which are necessary to install the pillars supporting the mizzen mast. It really is a puzzle finding out which pieces to install and when. The deck is planked with wooden nails but they are hardly visible (like on a real deck).
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It's finally time to get started on all the interior stuff. I've installed the platform for the powder and munitions room, and today I finished the bulkhead between the powder room and the lantern room. I won't be adding any glass in the panes, I think that'll just distract from the look. I'm really happy with how the window turned out, if I can do as well with the big stern windows I'll have no complaints! The only thing I'm not happy with is how the inner planking terminates at the very stern; it was difficult to bend them and almost impossible to sand them there. However, most likely it won't be seen at all when the bulkheads and deck planking is in place. It's always nice when you can just hide your sloppy craftsmanship! 🤣
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After posting the pictures the other day I found out I'd installed the lower decks clamps a little too high up, though I was able to remove them using a hair drier and reinstall them a little lower. I also installed the thickstuff (I think they're called?), the 2 x 3 planks running along the inside. This is most likely all the inner planking I'll add. I also added nails on the upper bulwarks. I used 0,3mm copper wire here, the 0,5mm I've used elsewhere seemed a little too think for these planks. With this I can get started on the decks, first will be the platform in the bottom where the powder room is. I've yet to decide how many bulkheads I'll install, I want the interior to be visible while also giving an idea of how cramped it was. Again, thanks everyone for the kind comments and likes, it's much appreciated! 😊
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Hahaha, trust me, I've thought about it 😂 Most likely though my next project will be La Diligente, a french tartane from the Ancre monograph. Lateen sailed boats are my favourite so it's something I'd like to "specialise" in. Thank you! 😊
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Thanks! That's exactly why I chose the stern, if I can build that I can build the whole ship 😄
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Progress has been very slow the past couple of months, partly because the summer is very hot where I live (daily 40C), yet I managed to completely plank both sides of the ship above the wales and install all the deck clamps. The lower one was particularly difficult due to the double curvature, and while the result is far from perfect I think it's good enough.
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Thanks! 😊 I went ahead and cut out the gunports and framed them. Not much to comment on that really, it was straightforward.
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Some more progress. I've installed the wales, the lower one was difficult to bend at the stern but I got it done. I've also gone ahead and trimmed the frames to their (almost) correct height and made the cutouts for the upper gun emplacements (not shown on the first photo which is from a week ago). I'm now turning my attention to the interior, I installed the keelson and will start on the strakes on which the deck beams are resting.
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Continuing with the rear frames that will make up the stern gallery. Those stern pieces were a bit tricky to make, I ended up cutting them a few millimeters thicker and sanding them down to shape with the rest of the frames. I think it turned out pretty well! Most of the rough sanding is done, but there's still a lot to be sanded. Sadly I just gouged the yoke a bit this afternoon when sanding the stern, not much I can do about that now though. Also I need to fill out that triangular area below the wing transoms and then sand it all flush.
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Thank you!!! 😊 I wouldn't say it was easy though!
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Well that turned out much better than I'd hoped! The hardest part of the frames were sawing all the pieces out by hand, but I eventually got it done (with a sore arm!) and the installation went very well. It definetely helped having a disc sander with a tilting table which allowed me to sand the angle at the foot of the frames with great precision.
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Not much progress lately, only that I built the cradle / building board to attach the frames. Unfortunately I didn't install the last cant frame perfectly well, it's about 1-2 mm off compared to the other side. Probably not much I can do about that now though. I'm using rubber bands to try and force it back a little, maybe when I install the rest of the frames and keep them together with the wales it'll stay in the correct position without warping the whole model. Or maybe not... Honestly I don't feel like starting all over so I'll have to accept it as it is. After all I chose this model to learn how to build plank-on-frame, and this is one of those lessons. Now I'm kind of scared to glue the 5 full frames in, in case I mess it up. 🙃
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Looks great, I'll copy your building board, I just need to buy some plywood. 👍
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Starting on the full frames. For now they're just dryfitted, it'll be a long time until I can glue them in place. I'll make a building board when I get to that point. Sawing out the pieces by hand takes some effort but it can be done. I've no room for an electric saw where I currently live anyway. Someday hopefully I can have a full workshop for my hobby...
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It looks amazing! Please keep posting lots of photos, they help me a lot since I'm building a stern cross section of the same ship 😄
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Thanks! My idea is to make a base plate with a copy of the frame plan on top, and another plate lifted to the height of the wales more or less, where I also trace the position of the frames. Basically as I did with my Santa Caterina build. Would that work? For now though, I'll prepare all the normal frames (just 5 for this cross section) and dry fit them.
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I'll make a building board for the rest of the frames, for this last one I used a template made from cardboard to check the correct angles. I've decided not to make bolts this time because the last frame has to be sanded a lot, and I simply don't know where to put the bolts so they don't get sanded down. I had this problem with my last build too (Santa Caterina), where the end frames were sanded almost diagonal. So I've gone ahead and glued the yoke and frame on, I hope I've been precise enough but it's really difficult to judge with all the angles. With this done I can start on the "normal" frames in front of the half frames. Those should be easier to do and can help with aligning the rest of the half frames.
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