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JSGerson got a reaction from mtbediz in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
Just so you know for comparison, The MS kit provides 37mm long guns and 23mm carronades. How accurate they are to the actual guns at scale, I don't know. Speaking of guns, the actual ship does not have her original guns but replicas mostly installed in 1927. By 1897 on her 100th birthday, she no longer carried any guns. The carronades that most likely represented the ones used in the War of 1812 (an 1808 design) are the ones with a screw adjustment for raising and lowering the barrel. These replicas were installed in 1981. The ones using a wedge for that purpose are of the 1840 era and are more technically called gunnades. As I understand it, the idea is to eventually replace the gunnades with the more accurate carronades sometime in the future.
Just thought you might want to know, Jon.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Rick310 in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
I did a similar method only I didn't have a mill cutter lying around, so I used my Byrnes Saw. You made that process look so easy. neat, and clean. Well done! Out of curiosity, where did you get your brass cannon barrels from and what size did you get?
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from mtbediz in USS Constitution by JSGerson - Model Shipways Kit No. MS2040
All 22 carriages are painted, now awaiting metal accoutrements such as eyebolts and rings.
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JSGerson got a reaction from mtbediz in USS Constitution by Der Alte Rentner - Model Shipways - 1/76
This is in essence how I planked my hull. A lot of “How to” articles and build logs use the tick mark method and proportional wheels or dividers. I just could not draw a pencil line on the hull that precise and get a strake to properly taper and fit. Like you I mathematically determined the width of the strake at every bulkhead point and sanded away, checking with the micrometer. I just didn’t do it with a nice spreadsheet. I worked each strake, one at a time, marked the determined widths on a piece of scrap paper. Once done, I discarded the paper. You did a fine job.
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from GGibson in USS Constitution by Der Alte Rentner - Model Shipways - 1/76
This is in essence how I planked my hull. A lot of “How to” articles and build logs use the tick mark method and proportional wheels or dividers. I just could not draw a pencil line on the hull that precise and get a strake to properly taper and fit. Like you I mathematically determined the width of the strake at every bulkhead point and sanded away, checking with the micrometer. I just didn’t do it with a nice spreadsheet. I worked each strake, one at a time, marked the determined widths on a piece of scrap paper. Once done, I discarded the paper. You did a fine job.
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from Ryland Craze in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
Just so you know for comparison, The MS kit provides 37mm long guns and 23mm carronades. How accurate they are to the actual guns at scale, I don't know. Speaking of guns, the actual ship does not have her original guns but replicas mostly installed in 1927. By 1897 on her 100th birthday, she no longer carried any guns. The carronades that most likely represented the ones used in the War of 1812 (an 1808 design) are the ones with a screw adjustment for raising and lowering the barrel. These replicas were installed in 1981. The ones using a wedge for that purpose are of the 1840 era and are more technically called gunnades. As I understand it, the idea is to eventually replace the gunnades with the more accurate carronades sometime in the future.
Just thought you might want to know, Jon.
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JSGerson got a reaction from CiscoH in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
I did a similar method only I didn't have a mill cutter lying around, so I used my Byrnes Saw. You made that process look so easy. neat, and clean. Well done! Out of curiosity, where did you get your brass cannon barrels from and what size did you get?
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from CiscoH in USS Constitution by JSGerson - Model Shipways Kit No. MS2040
Next, the pintle hinges were positioned and CA glued to the rudder while ensuring there was enough space for the gudgeons to slide under the pintles. The picture below is of the pintles dry fit up.
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JSGerson got a reaction from mort stoll in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
DAR, we may be both correct. I checked the US Navy plans and the wale does exist but is not as pronounced on the surface of the hull as the MS plans make it out to be. At best, the wale bumps out at its thickest point about 3.5" from the hull or about 3/64 at scale." and even that change is not as abrupt as the MS plans show. To see that fine detail in very old images is unlikely.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Geoff Matson in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
DAR, we may be both correct. I checked the US Navy plans and the wale does exist but is not as pronounced on the surface of the hull as the MS plans make it out to be. At best, the wale bumps out at its thickest point about 3.5" from the hull or about 3/64 at scale." and even that change is not as abrupt as the MS plans show. To see that fine detail in very old images is unlikely.
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JSGerson got a reaction from mtbediz in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
DAR, we may be both correct. I checked the US Navy plans and the wale does exist but is not as pronounced on the surface of the hull as the MS plans make it out to be. At best, the wale bumps out at its thickest point about 3.5" from the hull or about 3/64 at scale." and even that change is not as abrupt as the MS plans show. To see that fine detail in very old images is unlikely.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Der Alte Rentner in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
DAR, we may be both correct. I checked the US Navy plans and the wale does exist but is not as pronounced on the surface of the hull as the MS plans make it out to be. At best, the wale bumps out at its thickest point about 3.5" from the hull or about 3/64 at scale." and even that change is not as abrupt as the MS plans show. To see that fine detail in very old images is unlikely.
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JSGerson got a reaction from bruce d in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The simple reason is that it is thicker on the actual ship as well as it is on the plans. I'm no expert on ship design, but I assume the added thickness is for added strength when docking and bumping into things. These ships are often rolled on their sides for maintenance too. See foreshortened image below.
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JSGerson got a reaction from bruce d in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The transom like other parts of the ship changed over the years, so I hope these images help. The close-up image is present day, The image with windows sashes was 1914. I believe the sashes were removed after the 1927 renovation as seen in the 1934 image with two guys in a row boat. I also gave you a historic montage as to some of the changes that took place.
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from Der Alte Rentner in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The simple reason is that it is thicker on the actual ship as well as it is on the plans. I'm no expert on ship design, but I assume the added thickness is for added strength when docking and bumping into things. These ships are often rolled on their sides for maintenance too. See foreshortened image below.
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JSGerson got a reaction from mtbediz in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The simple reason is that it is thicker on the actual ship as well as it is on the plans. I'm no expert on ship design, but I assume the added thickness is for added strength when docking and bumping into things. These ships are often rolled on their sides for maintenance too. See foreshortened image below.
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JSGerson got a reaction from CiscoH in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The simple reason is that it is thicker on the actual ship as well as it is on the plans. I'm no expert on ship design, but I assume the added thickness is for added strength when docking and bumping into things. These ships are often rolled on their sides for maintenance too. See foreshortened image below.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Kenneth Powell in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The transom like other parts of the ship changed over the years, so I hope these images help. The close-up image is present day, The image with windows sashes was 1914. I believe the sashes were removed after the 1927 renovation as seen in the 1934 image with two guys in a row boat. I also gave you a historic montage as to some of the changes that took place.
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from mtbediz in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The transom like other parts of the ship changed over the years, so I hope these images help. The close-up image is present day, The image with windows sashes was 1914. I believe the sashes were removed after the 1927 renovation as seen in the 1934 image with two guys in a row boat. I also gave you a historic montage as to some of the changes that took place.
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from CiscoH in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The transom like other parts of the ship changed over the years, so I hope these images help. The close-up image is present day, The image with windows sashes was 1914. I believe the sashes were removed after the 1927 renovation as seen in the 1934 image with two guys in a row boat. I also gave you a historic montage as to some of the changes that took place.
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from Geoff Matson in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The transom like other parts of the ship changed over the years, so I hope these images help. The close-up image is present day, The image with windows sashes was 1914. I believe the sashes were removed after the 1927 renovation as seen in the 1934 image with two guys in a row boat. I also gave you a historic montage as to some of the changes that took place.
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from Der Alte Rentner in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The transom like other parts of the ship changed over the years, so I hope these images help. The close-up image is present day, The image with windows sashes was 1914. I believe the sashes were removed after the 1927 renovation as seen in the 1934 image with two guys in a row boat. I also gave you a historic montage as to some of the changes that took place.
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from GGibson in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
The transom like other parts of the ship changed over the years, so I hope these images help. The close-up image is present day, The image with windows sashes was 1914. I believe the sashes were removed after the 1927 renovation as seen in the 1934 image with two guys in a row boat. I also gave you a historic montage as to some of the changes that took place.
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from mtbediz in USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
I've always had a hard time bending wood without kinking, cracking, or breaking. It was for those reasons I used the very flexible Styrene plastic on my model for the curved modeling. However, I wasn't too pleased with the mediocre results. The CA glue made the plastic brittle. What wood did you use and how did you soften it up to bend it?
BTW, wonderful job!
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from GGibson in USS Constitution by Der Alte Rentner - Model Shipways - 1/76
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