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Thank you Michael
Like Buck,I can appreciate the frustration that this build has caused in the past.However I think you can draw from the experience in that you have learned that you enjoy another pastime.That of historical research.It isn't every builders 'cup of tea' but it can be as enjoyable as the build itself if you are that way inclined.
Besides your next project you have stashed ,the only advise I could offer looking into the future is to seriously consider scratchbuilding.I think this way you can enjoy the research and start from a blank sheet of paper with having to redo someone's inaccurate kit design.You certainly shouldn't have any reservations about your ability,I am confident you would excel with whatever vessel took your fancy.
Enough waffle from me   I look forward to seeing more updates of your Wasa
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

That looks spot on Michael Like Ferit says,sometimes we can't see the wood for the trees when we get wrapped up making these details.Looking at your recent pics reminds me of the great amount of work you have put into your model and what a joy and privilege it has been to follow your journey.I look forward to continue following along with the rigging and masting
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Excellent work mate and some fabulous pictures I agree,the rigging will make an even bigger impact to an already stunning model.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Hey all! Here are some pictures of the shrouds:
 

 

 

 
Quite enjoyable stage of the build, and changes the look of the model alot, at least in my eyes.
 
The ratlines will be testing my nerves though Im sure...
 
 
/Matti
 
 

I suggest you give this company a call.They specialise in partworks that have been discontinued.They don't list the Endeavour but it must be worth a go,even if they haven't got the one you want,they might know where you would find it.Another option is Ebay,many issues come up for sale on there.
 
http://www.partworks.co.uk/index.html
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Fabulous to see the first build on here to use Dr Mike's hull construction technique. After watching the DVD,I did wonder whether Dr Mike had these boards made for him or laminated them himself.Standard furniture boards are full of knots,the boards he used were completely knot free.I think it would be advisable to apply knotting solution to these to prevent them shrinking.I think the the main advantages for this technique,especially as he sells his models,is that it is both fast and accurate.The saving in man hours greatly outweighs the wasted material.He also builds two identical models in tandem to offset additional draughting time.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Hi all,
 
here we have port and starboard, ready for the gunports to be marked and cut.
 
regards
Tom

Hi Bob,
 
Yes, it is new for me as well. I saw it on an australian shipmodelling DVD. This film has been shot in Russia, in the workshop of one of the most famous russian ship modellers, called Dr. Mike.
Don't think it's his real name. He is a heart surgeon and a real ship modelling buff.
This method is interesting and seems to be straight forward.
I have finished the thwo halfs. Pictures will come in the next days.
I am not yet convinced it is the best way of building a hull, because the disadvantage is, you produce a hell of a lot of waist wood, that you can't really use otherwise. Not even for the barbeque, because these boards you buy in the DIY are made from strips and contain a lot of glue. Sure not the healthiest things to burn.
 
best regards
Tom

I have not seen this method of building, it looks interesting.
 
Bob

the first half Setup for final outside shaping.

after cutting the Frames each one is reinforced at the top edge in order to Support sanding. All Frames are screwed to the building board.

ok, done!
 
I have cut all the fames. The next steps are sanding inside and outside. Then mark and cut the gunports. After that, the starboard and port halfs are joined together.
After that I will build the framing for the Stern.
 
Tom
 

Hi all,
 
more frame cutting. I am sandwiching two pieces of wood using toothpicks. This way i am cutting the starboard and port sides of the frame in one go.
The two pieces are dowelled together, the pick protrusions cut and then it's the jigsaws turn.
 

Hi,
 
tracing, cutting, tracing cutting... it gets a bit tedious after a while. I am making progress with the frames, but decided to entertein myself with something more interesting for a while.
 
I've build one of the galleys. I made the base shape from a piece of scrap wood, sanded for a good smoothness. Then this block has been covered with self-adhessive copper foil. The same stuff you use for coppering a hull.
The fittings are made from brass and I carved the stand from basswood.
 
Tom

Just to let you know, I have started the building process.
 
The 2 pictures give you a quick peek into my workshop and the early building state of the hull.
It is the first time that I am working with this techniqe of building two halfs, joining them after the work on the two sides has been finished.
 
My plan is to give both sides their final shape by sanding. Because I am always sandwiching two pieces of wood before sawing, the buildup of the second half will be much quicker than the first half.
Once the shaping is completed, I am planning to mark and cut the gun ports. Then determine the decklines.
The last step then is to marry the two halfs before planking and keel-joining starts.
Lets see how it goes.
 
 
 

Hi all,
 
I am about to start the French 64 Canon ship L'Artesien. I will build this ship pararell to Le Rivoli, as I want to have the opportunity to change between Projects, when I am stuck with one, or change between the two according to what's on my mind.
 
I was thinking about how to approach these two projects. It was clear to me that I didn't want to build open frame models. I do like the look, but I am scared about the time consumption, because I love to have a perspective on when projects come to a successful end.
 
Having said that, there was still to decide which route to go. In the end I think it will be a mixture of the russian bulkhead method and my own ideas. See how it goes.
 
L'Artesien will be fully rigged with most her sails set. More or less like the model shown in the Musee de la Marine., Paris.
I will post updates and let you know how I am getting on.
 

Bandsaw blades are resistance welded together,I am a coded welder and trust me when I say that Resistance welding is miles apart from MIG(metal inert gas) welding that you are referring to.I wouldn't attempt to rejoin a broken blade with a MIG welder.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Good news and bad news: First the bad news -- after beating my head against the wall trying to do the cathead supports and eking, I decided to take a time-out. The good news is that I did do the lower rail and then decided to do other work on the head ( the gratings, ledges, knees, boomkin chocks).
 
Apart from the grating, which is a laser cut kit part finished with golden oak stain, all of the other parts were made from boxwood strip.The lower rail is a two part lamination to create the molding.
 
I will now return to the cathead supports and eking.  
 
Bob

Michael,
 
When I built mine seemingly eons ago, info was coming out hot and heavy.  For example, the color info came out just after I painted.  What I'm saying is to tell yourself, "ok.. there's new info but enough is enough, I'm building it now."  and get on with it.  With this ship in particular, the info will be changing for many years to come and if you wait, it will never get built.

Thank you Michael
Like Buck,I can appreciate the frustration that this build has caused in the past.However I think you can draw from the experience in that you have learned that you enjoy another pastime.That of historical research.It isn't every builders 'cup of tea' but it can be as enjoyable as the build itself if you are that way inclined.
Besides your next project you have stashed ,the only advise I could offer looking into the future is to seriously consider scratchbuilding.I think this way you can enjoy the research and start from a blank sheet of paper with having to redo someone's inaccurate kit design.You certainly shouldn't have any reservations about your ability,I am confident you would excel with whatever vessel took your fancy.
Enough waffle from me   I look forward to seeing more updates of your Wasa
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Thank you Michael
Like Buck,I can appreciate the frustration that this build has caused in the past.However I think you can draw from the experience in that you have learned that you enjoy another pastime.That of historical research.It isn't every builders 'cup of tea' but it can be as enjoyable as the build itself if you are that way inclined.
Besides your next project you have stashed ,the only advise I could offer looking into the future is to seriously consider scratchbuilding.I think this way you can enjoy the research and start from a blank sheet of paper with having to redo someone's inaccurate kit design.You certainly shouldn't have any reservations about your ability,I am confident you would excel with whatever vessel took your fancy.
Enough waffle from me   I look forward to seeing more updates of your Wasa
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Hi Michael,
 
I understand your frustrations with this. That being said, what you have created here is just so amazingly stunning that it stands on its own for the work of art that it is. Hang in there!

Mark,
 
 
Thanks for the info. That, it seems to me, will make it even harder for the smaller rear towers to rise up enough to overlap the lower parts of the upper galleries as we have been discussing. It will be interesting to see how you figure that one out, allowing enough room for the standing stern guards.
 
PS: Fred has also just sent me a post indicating that the quarterdeck pinrails should not be there. “The museum got it wrong”, he said. You can check that out at the Vasa specific site, at my build postings. So, I just removed mine, and it left scars grrrrrrrrrr. He also discusses what should be there instead.
 
PS: No I am not rebuilding my towers.
 
This will be an ongoing problem with this ship as new data are turned up and subsequent changes to our builds are needed.
 
Enough already (:-) I'm just going to move forward from now on. My log is already SO filled with "going backwards” tearing out and making fixes. I'm now done with that. And as you said maybe six members here out of the more than ten thousand would even know the differences, and errors........
 
As Fred had mentioned last year there is some interest for a new kit that may be in its development stages. One that is 100% based on Vasa’s 1/1 current info inclusive of 3D/cad computer renderings. I say current info because the way this ship is "changing" I can just imagine after this kit "is released???" the museum will find more areas where they got it wrong.
 
Just going to have fun moving forward, not sideways, and definitely not backwards anymore. Pulling out those two pinrails that left scars is the last change for me.
 
I will however absolutely highly regard member’s suggestions for how to get this right in regard to nautical accuracy. Nigel, B.E, Ferit as well as some kind other members have been so gracious in offering their guidance as I move along.
 
Big thanks to the nice people, who click, or post comments. I need this project to be fun, not an exercise in frustration J
 
Sorry for the long post, but I needed to vent as well
 
PS: I do very much believe, however, that seeking the most accurate build possible is a wonderful goal that I wholeheartedly support. I'm only writing for myself here, certainly out of frustration. And Corel's is the furthest from what should be Oh well..
 
Regards,
 
Michael

Thanks everyone for the feedback regarding painting. I still have enough time for a final decision.
I soon interrupt work on Pandora and start finishing Royal Caroline. I make now only minor works from this reason - preparation of deck beams and deck planks.

continuation. .   
Here below the keel inserted into the assembly base, with two small rods inserted into the slots of the two masts, and two "exercise" bulkheads in place just to give the idea that there is something more . . .
 
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Tomorrow I'll go for three/four days in Pisa with my daughter, so do not expect news shortly. 
Sincerely, Jack.