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vossy reacted to allanyed in Question about which Bounty kit to get
Also consider using the book for the detail work as well as the contemporary high res drawings available on Wiki Commons from RMG to compare with whatever kit you choose. Plans J2027, 2028 and 2029 for starters. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:HMAV_Bounty_(1784) Each is over 40MB, so very clear.
Allan
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vossy got a reaction from Canute in Question about which Bounty kit to get
I think the Amati Bounty turns into a great model but be prepared to undertake a LOT of heavy bashing.
The entire stern galley configuration really needs to be scratch built as the kit supplied soft metal castings simply do not match or fit the fine decorative pieces that are supposed to cover them. I am up to this stage on mine and whilst I think it has turned out pretty good, it has taken months to get it right. Similarly, you will find the overall plans not very good with many wood strips wrongly sized etc. The main wales for instance.
The pre-cut gun ports also need to be addressed as you will find your guns pointing at an obscene downward angle unless you come up with a plan. I rectified this by completely cutting the top off the gun port, doing away with the horrid metal port lining, and replacing the entire assembly with fine painted wood strips.
I will try to post a few pics here a bit later, (probably should have carried on with the log I started a few years ago here), but in the whole I believe the Amati 1:60 kit will make a great model, just takes a lot of forward thinking to get it that way. There are a few logs out there for this kit and they are helpful, plus I can give you a heads up along the way if you decide to go with this kit. Good luck.
Cheers.
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
Now in the middle of second planking.
As the hull curves from side to bottom, there is a piece that needs to be installed. It comes off the laser sheet flat, and has to adapt to the curve of the hull. I used my steamer, and a bunch of CA glue and accelerator. The wider side pieces are fairly easy to shape -- but the narrower center is a bear.
Regards,
David
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vossy got a reaction from mtaylor in Question about which Bounty kit to get
I think the Amati Bounty turns into a great model but be prepared to undertake a LOT of heavy bashing.
The entire stern galley configuration really needs to be scratch built as the kit supplied soft metal castings simply do not match or fit the fine decorative pieces that are supposed to cover them. I am up to this stage on mine and whilst I think it has turned out pretty good, it has taken months to get it right. Similarly, you will find the overall plans not very good with many wood strips wrongly sized etc. The main wales for instance.
The pre-cut gun ports also need to be addressed as you will find your guns pointing at an obscene downward angle unless you come up with a plan. I rectified this by completely cutting the top off the gun port, doing away with the horrid metal port lining, and replacing the entire assembly with fine painted wood strips.
I will try to post a few pics here a bit later, (probably should have carried on with the log I started a few years ago here), but in the whole I believe the Amati 1:60 kit will make a great model, just takes a lot of forward thinking to get it that way. There are a few logs out there for this kit and they are helpful, plus I can give you a heads up along the way if you decide to go with this kit. Good luck.
Cheers.
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
The model uses brass bulwarks at the bow and stern -- I think probably to define the portholes cleanly.
There's also a resin piece added in these pics on the lower stern.
Next step is second planking.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
The hull is closed completely, and some of the resin pieces are now mounted on the bow and stern.
Takes a lot of sanding and fitting to get the resin pieces right.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
The removable decks are now permanently glued down, and I'm beginning to close the hull in the unplanked spaces.
Here's the bow section closed. Next is a similar section at the stern. Then the center of the ship.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350 - PLASTIC - revisited
Dryfit. That’s the bulk of the building done now.
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vossy reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350 - PLASTIC - revisited
Mainmast done up for paint, still can separate it into 3 pieces
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
Decks now have cladding. Pictures show the removable decks installed and also removed.
Later on, pre-formed deck sections with fine deck planking already "printed" on will be applied.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350 - PLASTIC - revisited
Back to the ship, mainmast made up
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vossy reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350 - PLASTIC - revisited
It does not seem much, but the bridge structure, lots of clean up needed on the supports, wood deck down with a clear coat and masked for later painting. My plan is to pretty much have every structure painted before adding to the hull. When I did it the first time I paid no where near as much attention so this time it will work better I hope. 2 days work !
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
First planking now sanded and varnished.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350 - PLASTIC - revisited
Boat deck continues, range finder, flag lockers, Radio cage, admirals walk and radio room
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vossy reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350 - PLASTIC - revisited
So 2 days later, I’ve done up the funnels, they have pulleys and ropes that go on them as well but I’ll add them after I’ve painted them.
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
First planking done. These are pictures of the rough, unsanded hull. There is a plastic piece that fits into the hull as shown.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350 - PLASTIC - revisited
So I finally found (from EBay of course) a set of ringols from Alliance Modelworks (I think they’ve shut these days). Each PE set has portholes as a ring but that’s not how they were. You can hardly see them from a distance but has to be done.
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
Planking progressing. I'm now at the point where I need to start shaping planks and using stealers.
The planking wraps around the hull at the bow and stern, and I've used my steamer to help smooth that. This hull shape so far has not had much if any twisting of planks.
The last picture has sort of an optical illusion, so I added an arrowhead. The face it's pointing to is vertical and faces aft toward the stern. But if you look for a bit it will "flip."
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
First planking started -- four planks laid.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to Louie da fly in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350 - PLASTIC - revisited
Am I right in thinking you gave a talk on ship modelling to the assembled multitudes?
(I've been trying to get some of the Ballarat modellers over to the Dark Side. So far not a sausage).
Steven
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
A smaller bow deck is also removable.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350 - PLASTIC - revisited
So day 1, subs and ships, over 700 models in total registered.
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
The deck is built to be removable, in anticipation of R/C requirements. Since this will be a static model, at some point it will be glued down.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
Here's the hull with a bunch of horizontal reinforcing structures added. This eases my mind, because those frame ribs are really "twangy" and not very strong on their own, and a stray elbow would have broken one.
Regards,
David
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vossy reacted to drobinson02199 in Bismarck by drobinson02199 - Amati - Scale 1:200
Here's the first part of the keel and frame structure. This will be the longest model in my collection -- what you see here weighs in at 48" long.
Hats off to Amati for the plywood laser cutting. Very few connection points to cut, and they are tiny and easily cut. The frames fit into slots with no sanding required -- in fact, there is enough play in them that I used a square while gluing to keep them aligned. Manual called for wood glue, which would have taken forever given drying time. I used BSI medium gel, which is my go-to glue for everything.
Regards,
David
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