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mrshanks reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350- PLASTIC
I find the fly hawk and Pontos very reasonable as you get resin and turned brass as well, I find the White ensign incredibly expensive for what you get and no where near as detailed. The UK company was bought out by an American company and the newer Asian stuff is incredibly detailed. North Star and Combrig aftermarket is just amazing. Eduard is very dated in this field.
When you shop around the prices vary from very good to plain offensive on EBay (up to 3 times or more).
The Dreadnought has been out for several years now and there is a lot of kit for what is a fairly simple model.
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mrshanks reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350- PLASTIC
Yes, with torpedo nets, hopefully properly slung out. With regards to wood, I'd like to find something unique. I search continually for a reasonably priced Bluejacket Atlantic that does not require a second mortgage for shipping.
I would first like to bookend the battleships, the first and then the largest.
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mrshanks reacted to BANYAN in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350- PLASTIC
Niiiice! This will be an interesting and challenging build Greg. With or without torpedo nets?
The real question though - will you ever come back to wood?
cheers
Pat
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mrshanks reacted to RGL in HMS Dreadnought 1907 by RGL - FINISHED - Zvezda - 1/350- PLASTIC
The basic kit is fairly simple but a good start. A simple google search will find heaps of other renditions of this kit and the other manufacturers, but no one else has done one on our closed forum. There is a heap of aftermarket, none of them with a complete set. I don't think I could complte the kit without the AOTS book.
The kit I got from Ebay from Russia which was the cheapest place in the world to buy it.
The aftermarket stuff was from everywhere, each of them having bits and pieces I need, including perfect 12pdrs and winches.
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mrshanks reacted to donrobinson in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Hi John nice work on your transom it looks real good. What's confusing is that there is two different models, a "construction" model and a "show" model. The construction model in the book is being planked with walnut, which is not supplied, and the "show" model is planked with something else. Although I have never heard of using boxwood for planking that's what it looks like to me. I say this because it appears to be the same wood as the masts on the "show" model, and boxwood is commonly used for this application. The kit is supplying walnut for the masts and the instruction book is also showing walnut being used so it's anybody's guess as to what is used on the show model. One thing we can be sure of is what the show model is built with and what is supplied in the kit are not the same.
Have a Good One
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mrshanks reacted to John Maguire in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Thank you for the likes and comments . . .
As per the manual, the lower wale location was defined today by using my micrometer as a caliper. Those marks are not shown in the two pictures seen below. Its position is significant because it wraps around and runs across the top of the transom as the upper border for the diagonal planking so proper positioning is essential for an attractive transom.
The manual suggests constructing the "finish" diagonally planked transom off the model, then putting it in place, all the while being cognizant that the top of those planks have to fit smartly against the bottom of the wrap around wale.
In the manual and on the box the finish wood for the hull and transom look to my inexperienced eye to be walnut but as others have noted in their build of this ship there is a discrepancy between what is supplied and what is described. I like the white underbody and painted black wale shown on the box and in the manual. Accordingly, with that color scheme I want the rest of the wood on the transom to be the same specie. That is what you see in the picture above after a single coat of sanding sealer. Visualize a black wale across the top of the transom and white at the bottom.
Thank you for looking in . . .
Respectfully,
John Maguire
Seattle
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mrshanks reacted to John Maguire in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
Doc,
Good to see some work again here. Its fun to see how quickly you experienced folks get through the first planking.
I wish I had found the Gast Haus when I was building the Mequon site.
Respectfully,
John
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mrshanks reacted to DocBlake in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
The planking turned out great, John! Keep up the great work.
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mrshanks reacted to xken in USS Constitution by xken - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76.8
Happy Fourth of July to All!
Back to ship pictures for skylight rail details. I formed a circle to size using 1/32" brass rod and then cut 3/32" long 1/16" tubes and fitted on the rail and fitted the circle ends within one tube and soldered. Then six 1/32" stanchions with mating flanges soldered in place. The deck flanges were cut and will be glued in place to conform to the deck crown once the deck is glued down to the hull. Here is a sequence of pictures. Pardon my misspelling of stanchions in photos.
I decided to use a piece of stainless steel for the base plate; the painted brass one just did not look right. Now to add rails and cannon ball holders to hatch components and grates.
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mrshanks reacted to David Lester in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
Doesn't sound so bad, Dave. It's hard to beat a good panda steak!
David
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mrshanks reacted to DocBlake in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
Thanks, Mike. You're making me hungry! Jaeger (Hunter's) Schnitzel - that's veal in that delicious sauce with vegetables, mushrooms bacon...yum! We have a lot of German restaurants around here - Milwaukee is VERY German. There is a place about 3 miles from our house that makes a fabulous Jaeger Schnitzel. It's called Weissgerber's Gast Haus and it's run by the 4th generation of the Weissgerber family. Sadly, it's closing this month. They're going to tear it down and replace it with...ready for this?...a PANDA EXPRESS! There is no logic or sense in this world.
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mrshanks reacted to DocBlake in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
I decided to add stealers...and I may add a second pair. Not so much because I need them to fill more space on the hull back there, but rather to let the planks curve upward like they want to do. If the space gets too narrow, I'll just taper the aft part of the planks a little more.
BTW: Picked our first produce from the garden today! I'm cooking chicken and Andouille etouffee tonight!
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mrshanks reacted to DocBlake in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
I'm making slow progress. We just returned from a couple of weeks out East and there are a lot of outside responsibilities this time of year. I've made some progress on the first hull planking. The hull shape is really weird. The hull is fairly uniform throughout most of it's length, with the typical narrowing at the bow, requiring tapered planks. The stern widens a bit, but not really that much, and only at the extreme aft end, around the last bulkhead. I still can't tell for sure if I'll need a stealer there.
John the margin plank and the nibbing are inspired by Clare Hess' "Independence" build.
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mrshanks reacted to John Maguire in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
Doc,
Your deck calking is very uniform. Are you still doing them the same? How did you come by the edge layout? It is very attractive.
respectfully,
John
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mrshanks reacted to David Lester in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
Beautiful decking!
David
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mrshanks reacted to John Maguire in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
Doc,
Looking gorgeous. Congratulations.
I really like your trunnel solution. And . . . . I followed your link to Clare's build and voila, there was a perfect description with clear illustrative photos of the planking solution I have been seeking! I see you are similarly embarked.
Respectfully,
John
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mrshanks reacted to DocBlake in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
6 strakes on each side. I cut a rabbet from the bearding line to the keel (where the keel will go). Now I need to fit the garboard strakes. A very weird shape due to the hull cross section, so I need to think about this a bit!
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mrshanks reacted to DocBlake in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
I installed the bulwark formers (plywood), bending them at the bow with a clothes iron. The scuppers bottoms need to line up with the top of the decking, The shear needs to rise gracefully toward the bow, and the top of the bulwark formers need to line up with the top of the poop deck planking. Lots of fiddly stuff, so I opted for one hour epoxy to glue the parts in place, along with the famous "little yellow nails". I got a nice flow for the shear line. I added the first 3 planks on each side to begin the first hull planking. These were full width. I'll now start tapering the next planks, fore and aft.
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mrshanks reacted to Elijah in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
Congratulations! They look great!
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mrshanks reacted to DocBlake in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
Thanks for all the nice comments and "likes" guys!
Ken: I used the stock parts of the kit to form the hull. The scale change comes in with decisions about things like plank widths and lengths, the size of deadeyes, and dimensions of deck furniture, cannons etc. The model built to the scale the box suggests (1/35) would have been the smallest colonial schooner ever known to have been built. Smaller, even, than "Sultana", which Harold Hahn called "the smallest of them all". My scale change makes Independence intermediate in size between Sultana and Halifax.
I used redheart for the inboard planking on my POF AVS also. It ages to a more reddish brown than the bright red it appears when freshly cut. That's OK with me. If I really wanted to have the planking stay really red, I'd use bloodwood, as I did on my MS AVS. That stuff is a real b*tch to work with, though.
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mrshanks reacted to donrobinson in Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale.
I'm with Mike you are the "machine" super work!!
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mrshanks reacted to jbshan in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Here are two pics of the stem area. I think you can blow them up and see the seams.
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mrshanks reacted to donrobinson in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Although I am not sure what demarcation means( I will look it up real soon ). Your planking looks great, it seems like you have a nice smooth surface for the next layer and that is exactly what you want. Good work.
Ok, I just looked it up and yes I agree the demarcation looks fine.
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mrshanks reacted to John Maguire in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Brian, Doc & Don,
Thank you for your helpful input on filling.
I have been away for a week and spent several days after returning completing the first planking. The shutters went on yesterday and today.
The plank runs look terrible but they are all edge glued and ran fair and tight over the frames. I have neither high nor low spots. The demarcation against the ply is all smooth. The stern post was feathered prior to planking and the planks were also feathered at the stern post when planking was complete.
I have sanding sealer on the hull now and am preparing to build the "finish" transom. That is done over a paper pattern off the ship, then moved into place upon completion.
Studying pictures in the builders manual with a magnifying glass shows clearly how Chris planked his prototype, so with that and pictures of those ahead of me it is possible I won't screw up the finish planking.
Respectfully,
John
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mrshanks reacted to GuntherMT in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Can't speak for anyone else John, but I used filler on my first model, and was unhappy with the long term results (over time it discolored compared to the hull), so on the AVS I never even considered using filler, and I am perfectly happy with the results.
The only time I would consider using filler now would be after the first planking of a double planked hull, and then only if it was for some large problem that I simply couldn't fix any other way. My preference would be to 're-do' whatever was that bad and not have the need to use filler in the first place.
I believe (correct me if I'm wrong, don't have time right now to go back through your log to confirm) that this is the first layer of a double planked hull, in which case, if the only purpose of the filler is gaps between planking, then I see no need for it, as the purpose of the first planking is to provide a nice hull form for the 2nd layer, and small gaps or cracks in the planking simply don't matter as long as it's a good surface with no major dips or rises for the 2nd layer of planking.
If you are concerned about the first planking being level, you can give it a light coat of primer, and then sand it. The sanding of the primer coat will reveal any dips and imperfections in the layer so you can play with the 2nd planking over that area and determine if it needs sanding or filling prior to the planking (hope that makes sense).
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