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@Tom E Thank you for your kind words. Its a change from mofelling ships from  the age of sails. And yes I do enjoy the investigation of Homers discriptions... there in the epics, there is a a fascinating piece of ancient naval history of which I wasnt aware.
 
He gives details showing he knew what he was talking about (comparing with ancient vases and archeological foundings). Its really a wonderfull journey am going through and has made me to begin writting  a book which I have called "Building Odyseous Ship". Ofcourse am writting it in greek🤯. 
 
@Louie da fly
Nice comment 😄 Actualy Steven working on this  I got the impression that I am again in school...  memorys of my late teacher in gymnasium who  was a great admirer of Homer. I preferd maths and physics at that point and he used to tell me that I was not appreciatting Homer they way I should. Now in my sixtys it seems  I have learned my lesson.

Wonderful ship Christos,
 
Really enjoying how your wrapping history itself thru Homers descriptions with your ship.
Feels like its coming to life right from the ancient scripts.
 
Beautiful work.
 
Tom E 

50 oars hat a penteconter.... still need another 25  -  πεντηκόντορος = πεντήκοντα fifty and όρος, ερέτης oarsman

50 oars hat a penteconter.... still need another 25  -  πεντηκόντορος = πεντήκοντα fifty and όρος, ερέτης oarsman

50 oars hat a penteconter.... still need another 25  -  πεντηκόντορος = πεντήκοντα fifty and όρος, ερέτης oarsman

it looks like he is dead! And no one seems to care or to give any attention... they are keep rowing as nothing ever happened! 😁

50 oars hat a penteconter.... still need another 25  -  πεντηκόντορος = πεντήκοντα fifty and όρος, ερέτης oarsman

Thanks everybody for the likes and the comments. And Cathead and Jamie, that made my day! I love the parrot sketch. "The only reason he's on his perch is that he's nailed there!" "WAKE UP POLLY!"
 
Chuck, apparently the main difference between oars and sweeps (I had to look it up) is that a sweep is single, held with both hands (so you need your rowers to be in pairs, one for each side of the vessel) whereas an "oar" is used in pairs by the one oarsman. So yes, technically these should probably be referred to as sweeps.
 
And you're right, the size of the oarblades determines the width of the holes, not the other way around. But with this model there are no surviving oars, and contemporary illustrations aren't reliable, so I'm reverse engineering - the dromon's oarports are copied from a surviving oarport in a strake from one of the Yenikapi galleys, and I've based the width of the oar blades on that.

it looks like he is dead! And no one seems to care or to give any attention... they are keep rowing as nothing ever happened! 😁

it looks like he is dead! And no one seems to care or to give any attention... they are keep rowing as nothing ever happened! 😁

No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
Look, matey, I know a dead rower when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable rower, the Byzantine Red, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

it looks like he is dead! And no one seems to care or to give any attention... they are keep rowing as nothing ever happened! 😁

Evening, 
Well well, It has been a long time since I last updated the build!  Sheesh...as weird as the year 2020 has been, it's been a pretty good summer considering.
Lately, all the locally grown produce is every where!!!  
 
Patrick, 
I do plan on leaving the pins there natural brass color. I know it's not historical, call it modelers choice.
But, I think It adds a little "glint" to the interior of the ship. I like it.  
Hopefully brighten up a rather darker color scheme I've gone with for the entire ship.
 
The last four sleds for the carronade have been installed. 
The Tiller has made it's appearance on deck as well. It's not glued in yet.
I'm marking off where the rigging needs to be and the eyebolts needed for the deck.
It still needs a few small touch ups, like the tension rod on the top.  
 

 
I did remember to also consider the Spanker boom when marking the tiller.
I'll rig as much of the Tiller prior to installing. 
 

 
It's official!
The last four carronade are on deck. 
 

 
She officially has all of her teeth!   
 

 
Just need to finish the last block and tackle sets for these last four. 
 

 
It's funny, 
Looking at the below pic reminded me...I need to start some Quoins!
 

 
 

 
She's had a "naked" deck for the longest time. 
It's starting to get busy now!
 

 
Once the Tiller is in, the plan is to head to the bow next.
Bowsprit, then work my way back installing deck furniture.
I feel that I'll get better alignment with the furniture if the Bowsprit is in first. 
 
Wash your hands!
 
Tom E 
 
 

Thank you Steven for your comments.
Christos

Steven I havent choose it myself. Its what is concluded according to Homer's discriptions". I think that if the cheeks were lower they would not be seen even from a small distance. The reason painting them red (or even blue) was to produce impression to observers. "Παρειές" is  refering more to the upper part of the face, the lower part would be called (I  believe)  as "γνάθος". Of course at the lower part I am planing to position (looking most of the vases) the "οφθαλμός".
 
I would like to know what you think of all these that I botherd you with. I value your expirience on such issues... and not only ofcourse.

Steven, thank you very much! Yes thats good thinking. The oars had to be able to pass through the oar holes. So I guess being a little narrow was ballanced by the greater nr of the oars. And also am thinking... it seems normal not to add extra pieces on the oars, it seems that the oars ware better to be made from one piece of wood.

Homer says that Odyseus was the leader of 12 ships, which all hat red cheeks. Thats in Illias 2.637. It refers at this moment at the beginning of the expedition to Troy. Further on, is to said that Odyseus was not their King. He wssnt a King, he was the leader of a House (οίκος). There was no State, that time society's strusture was based on Οικος (Houses). It seems Odyseus Οικος was a strong one, so he was the leader among other Houses that they had relations with.

The pictures certainly suggest that's how they were made, but until we find a real one, we can only use "best guess".

Steven, thank you very much! Yes thats good thinking. The oars had to be able to pass through the oar holes. So I guess being a little narrow was ballanced by the greater nr of the oars. And also am thinking... it seems normal not to add extra pieces on the oars, it seems that the oars ware better to be made from one piece of wood.

Yes it looks great! Its a movie scene! Still Steven I have a comment over the oars. I think that the blade should have been wieder. I think its  narrow. I gues you have a reason for that which I would like to hear in connection with the oars which am now going to prepare for the pentaconter.
 
Christos

You are not going to get blind... on the contrary thats a good eye fitness workout!

Stem hat fort, mostly in order to fight ship inavators.. stem was the embarking spot of the ship. The stern was the place where the navigator was standing, as the he was responsible for the course. 
The stem had red "cheeks" says Homer. So I painted red  and ofcourse as Homer again mention I will have later on to paint the ship black under the wale.

Stem hat fort, mostly in order to fight ship inavators.. stem was the embarking spot of the ship. The stern was the place where the navigator was standing, as the he was responsible for the course. 
The stem had red "cheeks" says Homer. So I painted red  and ofcourse as Homer again mention I will have later on to paint the ship black under the wale.

Stem hat fort, mostly in order to fight ship inavators.. stem was the embarking spot of the ship. The stern was the place where the navigator was standing, as the he was responsible for the course. 
The stem had red "cheeks" says Homer. So I painted red  and ofcourse as Homer again mention I will have later on to paint the ship black under the wale.

Stem hat fort, mostly in order to fight ship inavators.. stem was the embarking spot of the ship. The stern was the place where the navigator was standing, as the he was responsible for the course. 
The stem had red "cheeks" says Homer. So I painted red  and ofcourse as Homer again mention I will have later on to paint the ship black under the wale.