Erik H

On 30-1-2018 at 1:42 AM, JohnReid said:

This is not an easy build.When I started my Sergal kit back in 1973 when I opened the box I knew that this was going to be challenge.No decent plans or instructions and what there was in Italish.With the help of Longridge, I made it through to the end with lots of blood, sweat, and tears.It was a real challenge as there was no internet then and not a lot of pics.Looking back though it was a great introduction to research and planning.I don't think that many Victorys got finished in those days.Cheers! John.

Haha, yes, the instructions are terrible. So glad we got the internet now, that's more valuable then the bloody manual 

Finally got some work done .. slow going and not much time to work on the Victory.

Second planking on the port side is done. Could have been a cleaner job but I'm not unhappy with it

Erik

5 hours ago, rghensley said:

Not trying to hi-jack your thread, just wanted you too see the difference in the frame of your kit compared to this version from same mfg., but w/diff mfg dates.  Every part required attention with knife and sanding block to get assembled.  Two of the lateral parts required a little ironing w/steam to flatten. I have around 20 hours in this and not a single part is glued yet!

 

 

They must have changed a lot

20 hours ago, Chippa said:

Wow, yours look way better then mine. If mine looked like that I would use them too.

They must have changed that over the years. These are wood parts.

I think you can buy them on their website https://www.mantuamodel.co.uk/ (currently down, new site under development)

Another link http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/mantua-laser-etch.html

20 hours ago, rghensley said:

Well, retired and time to play!  As I mentioned this is a older version of your kit.

I spent the day just cleaning and cutting slots to get the frame too this shape.  A ton of work yet to do before glue is applied.  This is old school building, and since I am old it fits!  Fired off a order to Shapways for all the items they offer in 1/78 scale.  Paid more for those parts than I did the kit (used).  Looking forward to more of your thread.

Rick

 

Hahaha nice  

And, same here, all the extra bits did cost more then the kit itself lol, but so far well worth it.

Erik

On 12-11-2017 at 7:37 PM, ca.shipwright said:

HI Erik,

 

On another note, I noticed that you have the quarter deck installed. Are you not going to detail the upper gun deck? It will be almost impossible to set the guns, hatches, etc., on the upper gun deck with the quarter deck installed.

 

Enjoy you build- it is a biggie.

 

Regards

Yeah .. followed the instructions and now I'm left with a challenge there

I'll think off something to get the guns in there  once I get the planking done. Working on both sides now.

Erik

On 12-11-2017 at 3:28 PM, Chippa said:

Hi Erik,

 

I think I have the same kit that you do. Mine stalled a long long time ago. I did not like the stern metal etching plates that were supplied with the kit. Mine are really in very poor condition. The etchings were not etched properly, and not only that they are really kind of ugly. I sort of stalled on the kit, with the idea of replacing the whole stern with my own version made from wood and fancy toothpicks.

 

How are your stern metal etching plates? Are you going to be able to use them?

I think these are the ones you're talking about  They're not too bad and I think they will work for me. Been a pain cleaning them and I recently started painting them, bottom left is done.

Maybe, just maybe, I'll order a few extra bits and pieces to add to it https://www.shapeways.com/product/Z3AEMH3UQ/1-78-hms-victory-stern-gallery-decoration?optionId=9864351 

On 4-11-2017 at 7:23 PM, Bill Morrison said:

I do have one question.  It appears that you are putting in a series of wales, but I can't see any in photos of the real ship in Plymouth.  I like them very much.  Do you have any information that I might be missing?

 

Thanks!

 

Bill

They're much bigger in the kit then on the real ship. This being my first complete hull I decided to stick with the kit

Erik

Thanks Bill 

Finally another update

Had to correct an error. The tapering towards the bow was not going well, the planks were going up too steep (you can see that clearly in the last posted image)

I'm happy with the new line I found. The next few planks are going on very smoothly now. Also started some preparations on the galleries.

Erik

thx all

Been very busy and have not had much time to work on the victory. Hope to have an update soon(ish)

20 hours ago, 6ohiocav said:

Great progress.  What wood are you using for the second layer of planking? Whales? Is it kit supplied?

 

Thx

And I have no idea, it's all kit supplied. I'll see if I can find the parts list, it might mention the type of wood.

Partlist found .. type of wood is not mentioned. The darker ones could be walnut.

Erik

Hey Rick,

I got the figurehead and the trophy of arms and also the lanterns from cornwallmodelboats in the uk.

http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/caldercraft-figureheads.html

http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/caldercraft_decorations.html

http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/caldercraft_lanterns.html

The monograms I got from https://www.syrenshipmodelcompany.com/

And I received some more replacement parts yesterday from https://www.shapeways.com/shops/victoryparts?s=0&section=Scale+1%3A78 (The rigols)

Think I spend more on the extra bits then I did on the model so far (got the model for a little over 100 euro) 

Start your build also 

Erik

small update, second planking is going slow

Hey John,

Hahaha, must be the old kit then. Still got rudimentary plans and the booklet is very poorly translated indeed. But luckely there's tons of information to be found on the internet now. 

I hope to visit the ship myself someday

Erik

1 hour ago, AntonyUK said:

Hi Erik.

Welcome to MSW.

Where are you from Erik ?

Nice progress on the Victory.

Nice move putting the brass gunports between the planking layers.

Also a nice touch is putting the monograms on the cannons. They look like Chucks.

 

Will follow along on this one.

 

Regards Antony.

Hey Antony,

Thx!

I'm from the Netherlands, I'll update my profile

Erik

11 hours ago, JohnReid said:

Hi ! is this the old Sergal kit ? Cheers ! John.

 

Hi John,

Tbh I don't know. Didn't know there was a new and an old kit 

All decks done, gunports done. time to start the second planking

And we're all up to date at this point. Will post an update soon 

Erik

Found some monograms to put on the guns online 

and with the extra monograms I decided to upgrade the buckets

Few more items I just had to replace, on the right the ones that came with the kit. Too big and a bad finish.

this new one is too big, but it's so much nicer then the original one, I'll be using it anyway 

Deviating from the plans. The gunports should be opened after finishing the second planking according to the plans. I decided to do it my way 

The kit comes with lots of metal frames to put into the gunports, but they leave me with a metal window on top of the wood. My plan is/was to insert these frames in the first planking (cut away a tiny amount of extra wood so they sit flush in the first planking) and then do the second planking.

Started on the first deck and the first planking

The deck treated with Danish Oil:

I didnt like the compass housing so I made my own from some left over wood. The kit just has a solid block of wood. Not very nice

Ordered some paint and got some replacement lanters. (kit lantern on the right, I found them to be ugly)

Thought I'd share my build with you all. It'll be a lot of pictures at first since I'm already building 

Little about myself, I'm Erik, 47 years old and I'm from the Netherlands. Done a partial Rattlesnake build  years ago and I've done the Constitution cross section, both from Mamoli.

Managed to get this kit second hand. The first owner gave up  and it was so cheap I just had to have a go at it.

This is what I got:

It'll be a kit build with some minor adjustments and replacements