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Heronguy
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Heronguy got a reaction from EJ_L in Sirene 1775 by Roadking (Vincent) - Corel - Scale 1:75 - French Frigate - First wooden ship build
I've tried dry heat bending, soaked strips then heat gun, and plank bender (head soldering iron with a big head). So far I've found the plank bender has been my friend! I haven't tried maturin52's approach yet. I'm going to revisit all the techniques as I move along before I settle into the one that works best for me.
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from Nirvana in HMS Bounty by Steve 12345 - FINISHED - Billing Boats - 1:50
I'll bet it feels pretty good to be able to start finishes on the hull! Nice work Steve.
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from Steve 12345 in HMS Bounty by Steve 12345 - FINISHED - Billing Boats - 1:50
I'll bet it feels pretty good to be able to start finishes on the hull! Nice work Steve.
Doug
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Heronguy reacted to Steve 12345 in How much are you willing to pay
One thing to consider
The first ship I built was reasonably exspensive I learned a great deal from building it but now working on my second that was a tenth the price I now find myself beginning to resent things I did on the first learning new things thinking I wish I new that when building the first ship
I now wish I got a few under my belt before spending the big bucks
I'm still happy with my first build don't get me wrong but there is a lot I could have done better if I'd have known and an investment like your considering is fairly big
I would instead maybe consider investing in tools like miniature table saw or planer so you can buy raw materials for very cheap and make your own parts as hobbie shops tend to be very expensive for the material you get
I hope this helps it's just meant to give you something to think about and ocourse the decision is yours and yours alone to make
Steve
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Heronguy got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Bluenose II by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr. 600 - Scale 1:100 - First build
Finished the deck furniture. Onward to the rigging!
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Heronguy got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Krabbenkutter by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr 457&458 - Scale 1:30
Krabby (my new name for the boat) and I have been negotiating the planking plan. The planking batten was placed and the 1st couple of strakes have been mounted.
I think the benefit of having multiple builds in progress is now clear to me: while Krabby's planks are setting, I can paint the pinrails on the little Bluenose II and cut out the bulkwarks on the bigger Bluenose II. Hmmm, maybe its time to start another build.
Doug
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Heronguy reacted to maturin52 in Sirene 1775 by Roadking (Vincent) - Corel - Scale 1:75 - French Frigate - First wooden ship build
The Admiral (my lovely wife) just got me a plank-bender for Christmas. I love it, it's my new best friend - or wil be when I start my next build. HMS Bounty is almost finished - a year and a half in!. Knowing I am considering USS Constitution next, she also got me the Anatomy of the Ship Series edition of the USS Constitution. I guess she's either supportive, or an enabler, depending on your point of view.
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Heronguy got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Krabbenkutter by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr 457&458 - Scale 1:30
First obvious mistake
I was pretty happy to cut out the deck plate. I mounted it on the bulkheads and eventually glued it done. I sat back to admire my efforts and then noticed:
I guess I should have made the cutouts before I mounted the deck! At least I got to learn how effective Isopropyl alcohol is at softening glue. A skill it turns out I needed all too soon afterwards!
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Heronguy got a reaction from Blighty in Krabbenkutter by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr 457&458 - Scale 1:30
The bulkheads in place. But there were a few problems. (Does old plywood turn into concrete? It was pretty had to shape.)
The deck sheet was my 1st effort at removing parts from the mahogany sheet. I got suggestions from reviewing the
Shop Notes, Ship Modeling Tips, Techniques and Research forum
Fitting the deck plate showed up some of the problems - the bulkheads need quite a bit of shimming and shaving
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Heronguy got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Krabbenkutter by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr 457&458 - Scale 1:30
The kit:
The mahogany sheets - jeweller saw and x-acto knives at the ready!
10mm mahogany planks. I think they’ll be a challenge shaping and bending. I hope I’m wrong!
The instructions are minimal. This could be a problem. There's only one build log on this site for the boat and it is the newer version from Billing Boats - and not updated since 2013. With some searching I was able to get the current instruction manual from the Billing Boats site. Not much more in them but they may have some nuggets of help.
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Bluenose II by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr. 600 - Scale 1:100 - First build
Started installing the "deck furniture". Kinda fun to paint these little things. I discovered how easy it is to make little problems by not planning ahead. For instance, having installed the cabin I discovered I'd omitted the railing and had to drill holes for the railing supports.
Unfortunately while doing that I snapped off the plastic boom crutch further up-deck.
Not surprisingly, there is no chance that gluing such a narrow neck together will hold. Fortunately wood is pretty easy to work with so I fashioned a new one from a scrap.
Now if only I could find the brass wire for the railing in my mess of a shipyard!
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from mtaylor in Sirene 1775 by Roadking (Vincent) - Corel - Scale 1:75 - French Frigate - First wooden ship build
I've tried dry heat bending, soaked strips then heat gun, and plank bender (head soldering iron with a big head). So far I've found the plank bender has been my friend! I haven't tried maturin52's approach yet. I'm going to revisit all the techniques as I move along before I settle into the one that works best for me.
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from Steve 12345 in Bluenose II by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr. 600 - Scale 1:100 - First build
Achieved? More like it happened! In this kit the deck is a simple plywood cutout. Based on things I read on here on MSW I decided to "plank" it by pencil. The 1st attempt wasn't very good so I erased by sanding and tried again. Wasn't too bad so I stained the deck with Minwax mahogany. That pretty well obscured the pencil lines so I relined it again on top of the stain. And that's all. The mottled look I think came from the state of the deck board when I stained it.
I'm planking my 2nd Bluenose II more "traditionally". We'll see how that one turns out soon!
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from piter56 in Bluenose II by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr. 600 - Scale 1:100 - First build
Started installing the "deck furniture". Kinda fun to paint these little things. I discovered how easy it is to make little problems by not planning ahead. For instance, having installed the cabin I discovered I'd omitted the railing and had to drill holes for the railing supports.
Unfortunately while doing that I snapped off the plastic boom crutch further up-deck.
Not surprisingly, there is no chance that gluing such a narrow neck together will hold. Fortunately wood is pretty easy to work with so I fashioned a new one from a scrap.
Now if only I could find the brass wire for the railing in my mess of a shipyard!
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from Nirvana in Bluenose II by Heronguy - Artesania Latina #20500 - Scale 1:75 - 2nd build
Hi Derek,
Go right ahead - also make improvements and let me know what works for you. I'm a newbie ship builder as well as a non-woodworker so my ideas are pretty unsophisticated!
I used the plank bending jig almost exclusively for lateral bends - trying to emulate what Chuck Passaro promotes for planking. WhenI tried (yesterday) to bend the planks for my Krabbencutter hull (much more curvy than the bluenose II) I found my pegs were too short (10mm planks rather than the 5mm strips from the Bluenose II). II that case I went to the plank-bender (soldering iron with a big head on it) . I'll have to hunt down some longer pegs.
You'll enjoy the Bluenose.
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from russ in Bluenose II by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr. 600 - Scale 1:100 - First build
Started installing the "deck furniture". Kinda fun to paint these little things. I discovered how easy it is to make little problems by not planning ahead. For instance, having installed the cabin I discovered I'd omitted the railing and had to drill holes for the railing supports.
Unfortunately while doing that I snapped off the plastic boom crutch further up-deck.
Not surprisingly, there is no chance that gluing such a narrow neck together will hold. Fortunately wood is pretty easy to work with so I fashioned a new one from a scrap.
Now if only I could find the brass wire for the railing in my mess of a shipyard!
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Bluenose II by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr. 600 - Scale 1:100 - First build
Thanks Michel,
Regular painter's masking tape was useless but in one of the forums people spoke highly of Tamiya masking tape. I bought a roll of the 6mm tape. It has a couple of nice characteristics. 1-it seals the paint out really well 2-it can be lifted and repositioned several times without compromising the adhesive or the surface underneath and 3- it can take a slight lateral Ben to follow a slight curvature.
I took a long piece - almost as long as the hull -- and placed it parallel to my waterline pencil mark starting from the bow. When I got to the curvy part at the stern I use 2 short sections of tape to follow the curve. Just eyeballed the placement to look like a smooth curve.
I painted above the waterline tape in black, removed the tape, taped waterline from above (I.e. On the black), then painted white not worrying about width. Finally when white was cured I put another layer of tape over then tape and eyeballed the stripe width as I proceeded to place the tape. Thebtamiya tape is translucent enough to judge that. Painted the lower hull red and voila, I was satisfied.
Others on this site have suggested purchasing automobile detailing stripes and using them instead of paint. I'll probably try that sometime.
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from JPAM in Bluenose II by Heronguy - Billing Boats Nr. 600 - Scale 1:100 - First build
Started installing the "deck furniture". Kinda fun to paint these little things. I discovered how easy it is to make little problems by not planning ahead. For instance, having installed the cabin I discovered I'd omitted the railing and had to drill holes for the railing supports.
Unfortunately while doing that I snapped off the plastic boom crutch further up-deck.
Not surprisingly, there is no chance that gluing such a narrow neck together will hold. Fortunately wood is pretty easy to work with so I fashioned a new one from a scrap.
Now if only I could find the brass wire for the railing in my mess of a shipyard!
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from Nirvana in Bluenose II by Heronguy - Artesania Latina #20500 - Scale 1:75 - 2nd build
A good idea from the forum that I really like. There is a narrow walnut piece between the quarterdeck and the foredeck. It needs to be shaped to the curve of the deck. Tape some sandpaper to the deck and use that as your sanding block for the strip. Get the right curvature (by definition) every time.
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Heronguy got a reaction from geoff in Nearly new member saying hi!
Hi Len,
A fellow Ontarian saying welcome on the journey!
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from Blighty in Nearly new member saying hi!
Hi Len,
A fellow Ontarian saying welcome on the journey!
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Surprise by Rossi46 - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:48 - First Wooden Ship Build
Nice work!
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from maddog33 in HMS Surprise by Rossi46 - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:48 - First Wooden Ship Build
Hi Rossi,
I'm on my 1st build(s) too. I wasn't as courageous as you to start with but I'll watch your build with interest.
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from Rossi46 in HMS Surprise by Rossi46 - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:48 - First Wooden Ship Build
Nice work!
Doug
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Heronguy got a reaction from EJ_L in Nearly new member saying hi!
Hi Len,
A fellow Ontarian saying welcome on the journey!
Doug
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