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I’m sorry , I got it wrong. This image was taken after she was employed as a cadet training vessel. The port holes were added at the time she served as a cadet training ship. So this puts her a bit later then her barquentine time. You can see the addition and refurbishment of the main and mizzen masts. Rob
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I agree completely. Why is it escaping so many that McKay openly and admittedly claimed he kept secret, several structural features. The Naval hood is one known significant one. But it’s like pulling teeth to get folks on board. Sometimes you have to read between the lines to get to the truth. Rob
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Good job. I just happened to find this image of Cutty being refurbished the first time after her Aquisition from the Portugues. billboard closeup.
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I always assumed, that after McKay revealed his first *Hood* design on.....say the Staghound....it would have become evident of this novel, ingenious, structure. And hence, encouraging others to *mimic8 McKay's design. Who truly knows the *INTERNAL* secrets...unseen by prying eyes. This clipper appears to have a *cheek*....not really a *hood* though. This clipper just has stem scrolling. Which I found typical.
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You know....I've looked to see if any other clipper during that time had anything suggesting a *Naval Hood*....and I generally found nothing. The stem of American clippers had ornamentation....but rarely Have I seen an ornamental *cheeks*....or *Hoods* Notice the examples presented here. It appears in 1869 a *Hood* might be represented........other that the McKay clippers...I'm not sure what other vessels were identified to make this drawing significant....other than , Like I said.....McKay clippers.
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It would sure be refreshing to see a builder actually follow through and add the Naval Hoods to bolster the cutwater and make the stem factual. You've done an exhaustive study, coupled with much research...to verify the validity of these McKay structural marvels. They truly separate his ships from all the rest. He made sure of it. Duncan Mclean recorded it. Rob
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Picking up where you left off will be fun. I'm wondering, will you be adding all the Portuguese additions...when she was the Ferriera? The fore deck access and the aft access at the poop cabin rear? Facing changes and railing changes to the forecastle? All the portholes added when she was a cadet training ship.......? Or are you looking to keep to her original configuration. I talked to you about all the differences one can encounter in a vessel's life span, when modeling her. Deciding what era you are focusing on will be definitive in her appearance. Rob
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In your view what do you suppose the forward capstone does in the forecastle? I suspect its part of the anchor chain retention mechanism. The chain was then lowered down into the hold from there. The forecastle also acted as crews quarters. During this period , windlasses were being replaced by capstans in general use. Since both T and CS were composite ships, and iron and new technologies were replacing older wooden constructed older designs…… it is not a stretch to assume these upgrades were added to T. This is where good deduction comes into play. To paraphrase Spock; “When all impossible things have been eliminated whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth”. Here are some examples of capstans driving below decks winches for anchor use. Rob
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Indeed. When you see 2 or 3 different representations of the same vessel....this is your clew to prepare to dig into your research mode. I wouldn't completely disregard the first images of the antique model. It was evidently done by an extremely skilled model shipwright. This suggests he was probably also skilled at his research. His attention to detail, suggests this skill overflows into his maritime research skill as well. Remember, just because you see 1 or 2 different renderings of a model...doesn't mean the vessel didn't go through some up...or down grades itself...thus being represented in the model depicted. My own Glory of the Seas is the perfect example. Both mine and Vlad's models faithfully represent Glory of the Seas....though they are nearly unidentical. He, modeled her as built....mine models her over 8 years later, after some major additional construction. This being said..... means you need to dig.....validate what is verifiable and reject what is not. And DO NOT mix time period details. I found this error being made as a regular practice, when I researched my Great Republic. Good luck and keep searching for the truth. Rob
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She’s looking real smart. I’m assuming the shrouds will be string so they can flex back when you collapse the masts? Rob
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1/96 has proven the scale, for my attention to detail. Any larger and I would have to replicate more accurately...the actual seizing's, material, joinery....ect. 1/96 has allowed me to hyper detail, without eliminating crucial and essential details.....plus the scale is small enough that extremely minor details can be eliminated all together. Like your, *In a bottle* scale of 1/700 which, if the modeler is skilled enough, can yield nice detail...while permitting many finer details to be eliminated or simply suggested...without losing the faithfulness of the replication. Historical...not to mention physical accuracy, IMHV, must be translated to your model if you want to present an accurate representation.....rather than a more artistic expression of the vessel. I can't tell you how many corrections I had to make during construction....when new, never before seen photographs, were presented to me via Michael Mjelde. Again....thanks for your fine comments and encouragement. Rob
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Good job…..but those added cowlings taper back to the hull . Not squared off like you have then. Look closely at the model you posted. Rob
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I always enjoy watching bottle builders at their craft. So tricky erecting everything inside the thin bottle neck. I will watch with anticipation as you assemble her in that narrow bottle. Great job for sure. Rob
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Thank you gentlemen, for your kind words. One of the items on my list, was to take comparative images....(not all are of a completed model)....but the point is, to compare the actual photographed vessel with the model. It is a sure way of determining if I stayed as true to the prototype as possible. These fine high quality images were made possible by my friend Michael Mjelde, author of several books on Glory of the Seas. Without them, I could not have achieved the level of accuracy I was aiming for. Rob
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