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    DSiemens got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    The planking method works well and I think it looks good.  I cut some paper at 1.5 mm stained it with golden oak and glued it in place.  I started from the outside edges and worked in.  I also stained the hull with golden oak. 
     

     

     

     
    From there I did the windows.  One of the best ways to do windows is to print off windows from plans and glue them onto the model.  My printers down at the moment so I hand drew some windows.  I took a darker stain and stained a strip of paper for the door.  
     

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Thanks Carl.
     
    So the next part is adding on to the stern bulwarks.  I cut out part of the plans to get the sizing that I needed and then cut out a piece of wood to glue in place.  I soak the wood for a couple minutes and then glued it to the top of the bulwark. 
     

     

     
    After I send the bulwark down I work on the rail to go on top of the stern bulwark. I cut out another 1.5 mm piece soak it for a a few minutes and then do a grain break at the very end to give that lip between the two rails.  Then I glue it in place.  
     

     
    I sand that piece down to thin it out and then move on to the stern cabin.  I start with the front of the cabin that will be on deck cut out a piece that fits in the place where the cabin will be and then sand the top edges to round it out.
     

     

     

     
    I decided to cut out the door on this model this is more for my own experimentation it doesn't have to be done as part of the beginners build.  For the door typical I'd go out a piece of paper paint it and then glue it in place I wanted to try this out since the cabin is open and I will  glue the door hinged open so that it looks like you can walk inside. 
    After the front of the cabin was placed I put in the back of the cabin this is kind of the same thing placing the piece sanding off the top edges to round them out and gluing it on. 

     

     

     
     
     
     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Now I get into carving out the hull.  First I start with the wood.  I always talk about how inexpensive this craft is and this instance is no different.  I went to hobby lobby and picked up some bass wood.  In case you are wondering I am not sponsored by hobby lobby and this isn't ads for them. They just happen to be the closest hobby store to my location.  Although if some one from hobby lobby reads this and feels like sponsoring a cool website that promotes ships in bottles....message me.  
    Any way here's the prices for what I got.  Honestly for $6 I can build twenty Bermuda sloops.  Supplies go a long way in ship in bottle building.  Part of the reason I show the prices is to show how inexpensive this hobby is.  You can probably do this build for under $30.     
     

     
    From here it's cutting out the size block I need.  I compare the wood to the plans and make a cut. 
     

     
    Then I cut the deck angle.  This is something I think I do a little different.  A lot of builders will carve the hull from a solid block.  I actually love that method because it's a lot of fun.  I do find this method to be a little easier though so I'm including it in the beginners build.  
    First I cut out the plans at the water line and the deck line.  For the deck line I use the bottom of the gun ports.  Carving out the deck this way  helps keep that nice curve the ship has.  The cut out plans will be used to carve this out.  The bulwarks will be glued on later. 
     

     
    The hull will actually be pretty thin so I cut the wood down and then wen to my dremel for the curved cut of the deck.  I've included the two tools I use.  One is fast and the other smooths it out I then follow it up with hand sanding.  I left a little under the water line since the ship will be embedded in the clay sea.  Note.  I made my length cut a bit long.  Better to long than to short. 
     

     

     

     
    From here I cut out the over head plans.  I drew out the center line then drew out the hull shape based on the plans and made my cut.  Something to note here.  For ships that have a big tumble home you will need to account for it before you cut out the overhead plan.  The deck may not be as wide as the hull itself.  The Bermuda Sloop doesn't really have a tumble home so this isn't a problem.  We will need to account for some slight tapering in the stern section but this will be done with the bulwarks and deck house later. 
     

     

     

     
    Then comes the more intricate sanding out of the hull.  Compare the hull to the plans and sand it out accordingly.  Note the way the stern and bow tapers inward as you go down the plans.  This needs to be replicated in the hull.  The hull in this photo appears long for some reason. Weird angle I guess.  
     

     
    Also note how the stern tapers inward when facing the back of the ship.  Sand those corners in.  I had a hard time getting a picture to show this.  I hope this is good enough. 
     

     
    Once the hull was done I drew in the deck planking.  There's a lot of methods to this too.  For this ship I drew it in with a pencil.  I did it kind of quick so it isn't amazing I went back later and filled in a few more lines.  
     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Mark out where you want the gun ports.  I eyeballed it.  Probably not the best method but it was a quick way of doing it.  The good news for those starting scratch building is you don't have to be 100% perfect all the time.
     

     
    After that its time to make the bulwark.  I used a 1mm or 1/8th inch piece of bass wood for the bulwarks.  Hold them up to the plans and mark the width.  At this point the cuts are straight even though the bulwark will be curved.  Cut the pice to be a little longer than the ship.  Remember the length of the bulwarks curves around the ship so its a little longer than the length on the plans.   

     

     
    From here place the piece in a cup of hot water and let it soak for five minutes.  This will help the wood bend.  From here cut out the sections of the bulwark in between the gun ports.  This way you don't have to bend the wood vertically just horizontally along the edge of the deck.  It also makes nice square gun ports.
     

     
    For bending I use a technique called breaking the grain.  You soak the wood then bend it with tweezers until you get a crease on the inside of the bulwark.  Do this along the bulwark piece and it will bend where you want it.  The crease will be on the inside edge so no one will see it.  Also glue oneside of the wood and let that dry then apply glue and bend the wood around gluing down the other side.  The already glued edge will help it stay in place.  
     
    Give the bulwark a good sanding then it's time for the cap rail.  
     
    I cut this piece to be a little longer than the bulwarks are wide.  In this case 1.5 mm.  
     
    I soaked it and used the same bending techniques only this time going along the top of the bulwarks.  Also note I didn't go all the way to the front.  The bow bulwark have the tightest bend so I did a separate piece for this section.  
     

     

     

     

     
    Also note the 1mm high bulwark are big for the plans.  This falls into one of my rules for building.  Cut big then sand small.  Now that the rail is on the bulwarks it can be sanded thinner.  
     
    I cut another 1mm pice to act as a channel amd used the same technique to glue it right along the line where the bulwark meet the hull.  This does a great job hiding the lines between the bulwarks and the hull.  Its now starting to look like a Bermuda sloop.  
     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Once you have your plans you need to pick a bottle.  For this build I'm using a clear bottle.  I wanted to pick a bottle that people would have easy access to or at the very least was a common shape and size.  I found this particular one at Hobby Lobby for around $8.  If you get one from Hobby Lobby I suggest you go in person.  The clarity of the glass differs so you will want to inspect it before you purchase it.  Clarity is important in a ship in bottle.  You want to be able to see the model once it's in the bottle.  Too many distortions or bubbles can block or distort the view.
     

     

     
    The next step is sizing the plans.  For this I copy my rigging plan to a software that will allow it to be resized.  Personally I use Microsoft Word.  It's easy to put things in and prints the same size consistently.  Photoshop might work.  You might try Pixlr which is a free online photo editing software.  I think Google docs would work as well.  What you need though is a program that will allow you to print a photo at variable sizes.  
    I copied the photo into word twice and gave each photo two different sizes.  One a little larger and one a little smaller but both about the size of what I think will fit in the bottle.  I adjusted the paper to landscape and moved the photo's to the left side of the page.  Then I cut out the plans with a long narrow strip going to the end of the page.  What this does is allows me to put the plans into the bottle with the narrow strip sticking out.  This narrow strip helps pull the plans out of the bottle.  Cut the plans to the water line and to the top of that mast and close to the back of the ship.  That way you can see if the ship will fit in the bottle.   
     

     
    This is the smaller of the two plans.  It turned out to be a bit to small.  I pulled it toward the front of the bottle to point out the different aspects of sizing a ship in bottle.  To get philosophical I personally think ship in bottle building is part modeling and part painting a picture.  The bottle is the canvass that this painting will be on.  When someone paints a picture they don't paint on one side of the canvass and leave the other side blank.  They fill up the canvas.  One aspect of a good ship in bottle is one that fills up the bottle. With the bottle laying down I will mostly be worrying about the height of the ship.  The closer I can get the mast to the top of the bottle the more space the length of the ship will fill up.  Going back to these particular plans notice that the ship will easily fit in this bottle but, there is a lot of extra space.  I pulled the ship forward to point out that about a third of the bottle is empty.  I have plenty of room to go up so I will need to make the plans bigger.  Technically I could add a lighthouse or another ship to fill in that space.  For this build though I'm just doing the ship.  
     

     
    The bigger of the two plans has the opposite problem.  The plans are too big.  You can see the top mast curling around the top of the bottle.  Notice lengthwise this ship really fills up the bottle.  The trick is getting height length and width to work.  There's another part to be careful about in sizing and it's a mistake I've made several times.  Be mindful that you will also put sea into this bottle.  I have carefully sized ships and got them to fit just perfectly but forgot to add a few millimeters for the sea and ended up with a ship that doesn't quiet fit.  Every millimeter counts!  Add a few for the sea going into the bottle.    
    (Also a note on measurement.  I'm not going to leave a lot of measurements in this log.  It's going to take time to type out a detailed process let alone all the measurements that go with it.  That said even though I am American when I do leave measurements I will use the metric system.  There's a couple reasons for this.  One, it's easier than the imperial system.  Millimeters are just easier than 1/32 or 1/64th's of an inch.  Two the ship in bottle community is very international.  I've met people in Germany, France, Great Britain, Ukraine, the Philippines and many, many other countries.  The metric system is more universal so I find it's easier for more people to understand.)
     

     
     
    Report post   (IP: 73.229.234.33)       Posted February 3 (edited) The first place to start in building a ship in bottle is the bottle itself.  For this build I'm using a clear bottle.  I wanted to pick a bottle that people would have easy access to or at the very least was a common shape and size.  I found this particular one at Hobby Lobby for around $8.  If you get one from Hobby Lobby I suggest you go in person.  The clarity of the glass differs so you will want to inspect it before you purchase it.  Clarity is important in a ship in bottle.  You want to be able to see the model once it's in the bottle.  To many distortions or bubbles can block or distort the view.   
      
     

    The next step is sizing the plans.  For this I copy my rigging plan to a software that will allow it to be resized.  Personally I use Microsoft Word.  It's easy to put things in and prints the same size consistently.  Photoshop might work.  You might try Pixlr which is a free online photo editing software.  I think Google docs would work as well.  What you need though is a program that will allow you to print a photo at variable sizes.  
    I copied the photo into word twice and gave each photo two different sizes.  One a little larger and one a little smaller but both about the size of what I think will fit in the bottle.  I adjusted the paper to landscape and moved the photo's to the left side of the page.  Then I cut out the plans with a long narrow strip going to the end of the page.  What this does is allows me to put the plans into the bottle with the narrow strip sticking out.  This narrow strip helps pull the plans out of the bottle.  Cut the plans to the water line and to the top of that mast and close to the back of the ship.  That way you can see if the ship will fit in the bottle.   
        
     
    This is the smaller of the two plans.  It turned out to be a bit to small.  I pulled it toward the front of the bottle to point out the different aspects of sizing a ship in bottle.  To get philosophical I personally think ship in bottle building is part modeling and part painting a picture.  The bottle is the canvass that this painting will be on.  When someone paints a picture they don't paint on one side of the canvass and leave the other side blank.  They fill up the canvas.  One aspect of a good ship in bottle is one that fills up the bottle. With the bottle laying down I will mostly be worrying about the height of the ship.  The closer I can get the mast to the top of the bottle the more space the length of the ship will fill up.  Going back to these particular plans notice that the ship will easily fit in this bottle but, there is a lot of extra space.  I pulled the ship forward to point out that about a third of the bottle is empty.  I have plenty of room to go up so I will need to make the plans bigger.  Technically I could add a lighthouse or another ship to fill in that space.  For this build though I'm just doing the ship.  
        
     
    The bigger of the two plans has the opposite problem.  The plans are too big.  You can see the top mast curling around the top of the bottle.  Notice lengthwise this ship really fills up the bottle.  The trick is getting height length and width to work.  There's another part to be careful about in sizing and it's a mistake I've made several times.  Be mindful that you will also put sea into this bottle.  I have carefully sized ships and got them to fit just perfectly but forgot to add a few millimeters for the sea and ended up with a ship that doesn't quiet fit.  Every millimeter counts!  Add a few for the sea going into the bottle.    
    (Also a note on measurement.  I'm not going to leave a lot of measurements in this log.  It's going to take time to type out a detailed process let alone all the measurements that go with it.  That said even though I am American when I do leave measurements I will use the metric system.  There's a couple reasons for this.  One, it's easier than the imperial system.  Millimeters are just easier than 1/32 or 1/64th's of an inch.  Two the ship in bottle community is very international.  I've met people in Germany, France, Great Britain, Ukraine, the Philippines and many, many other countries.  The metric system is more universal so I find it's easier for more people to understand.)

     
    I did a final resize and got the height right where I want it. I've accounted for the sea and left some room and the ship is filling up the bottle nicely.  I did pull this forward as well to show the difference.  The ship leaves about a fourth of the bottle empty.  When it's centered it will be an eighth on each side which is pretty nominal.  I put my other plans on word and adjusted them to the same size as my rigging plan.  I then checked the width.  
     

     

     
    The width of the plans is 9 cm.  This is of coarse half the width of the hull.  So the hull width will be 1.8 cm.  The bottle opening is 2 cm.  I have 2 mm to spare.  I will need these additional millimeters because the cannons will protrude from the side of the hull.  A long with that the main sail will need to wrap around the ship so I will need some space for the sail.  2 mm will be enough space for that cannons and the sail though so size of the plans are good to go.  I then printed a few copies.  I will be cutting them so I'll need more than one.  I did pick this bottle specifically because I think it's a good beginner bottle.  The standard U.S. size bottle opening is 1/2 an inch or 1.27 centimeters.  This bottle has about a 3/4 inch opening or 2 cm making it slightly wider than standard bottles.It's not so wide as to take away from the magic of putting the ship into the bottle though.  
     
    The next step will be carving the hull.  Please feel free to ask questions.  I want people to be able to follow this and build their own ship.  So the more I can help people understand the better.  
     
        
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    DSiemens got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    The first thing you need is the plans.  Fortunately for the Bermuda sloop there's lots of options.  Google Bermuda Sloop plans and look at images and you'll find a lot.  Also the Greenwich museum has original plans on their website.  http://prints.rmg.co.uk/art/494822/unnamed-58ft-bermudan-sloop-no-date The plans I'll be using come from Veres Laszlo who illustrated The Story of Sail.  If you do get into ship in bottle building I highly recommend the book as a great source of plans.  
     
      
     
    What you will need starting out is the sail plan.  The plans have to be sized to the bottle you will be using so knowing the mast height is important. 
    Here is a simple sail plan that can be used.  Found here http://herossea.blogspot.com/2014/02/?m=1

     
     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    I started this build on www.bottledshipbuilder.com.  It fits with the mission of that site but the idea of this build is one I've had for a long time and it began with MSW members in mind so I thought I'd bring it over.  To give a little history and the idea of what this build is, it started with a pet peave of mine.   Those that have seen me on the forum have probably seen that I have been critical of ship in bottle kit's out there.  I have seen a lot of MSW members and members of my local club take interest in ships in bottles then try a kit and end up never wanting to build ships in bottles again.  As many of you also know ships in bottles is something I'm passionate about.  Probably overly so.  I'm not sure I can explain that passion.  For me it's something magical.  I get a ship into a bottle and I stand back and I'm still amazed that I was able to do it.  I know the process but it still amazes me.  The other part of that passion is those that helped me get to where I'm at.  I feel like I was very lucky I got into ship in bottle building when I did.  I found these small groups with cheerful members willing to share their ideas and I learned very quickly.  I owe a lot to the members of the Ship in Bottle Association of America.  Unfortunately SIBAA closed a couple years ago and www.bottledshipbuilder.com and the Facebook ship in bottle builder group what's left of the organization.  Much like ship modeling in general ship in bottle building is a dying art.  In an effort to keep it alive and pass on the knowledge that was given to me I like to share ship in bottle building methods and knowledge.  So it bugs me a bit when a company puts out a model that is overly difficult and turns people off to building ships in bottles.  
     
    In my personal opinion there is currently no kit on the market that gives what members of MSW would look for in a ship in bottle kit.  The closest one is Amati's but I think they made their ship to tight of a fit which has given a lot of beginning ship in bottle builders trouble.  Every other kit is to kiddish to be taken seriously by members of MSW.  I had thought for a long time about making my own kit.  I've explored that process and found a lot of complications to it.  Besides that for a patience bottle builder I'm not very patient.  I have a hard time measuring and writing all the details so I decided on a different approach. 
     
    In an effort to give this information as freely as it was given to me I am posting a how to build log.  It will detail all the steps for a simple ship in bottle build.  The idea being if I were to make a ship in bottle kit for beginners this is what it would look like.  Since I'm not detailing every measurement this also acts as a guide to scratch building.  If you can build this ship you can use the same techniques to build others.  Also this gives builders the ability to size it up or down as needed.  I want this to be a great starting place for those want to try ship in bottle building and I'm hopeful I can present it in such a way that will share the magic of it and have builders wanting to try more. 
     
                
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    DSiemens got a reaction from IgorSky in ATLANTIC by IgorSky - FINISHED - 1/600 Scale - BOTTLE - three-masted schooner   
    Nicely done Igor. 
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    DSiemens got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Next part is the windlass.  The windlass is used to haul anchors and other heavy things on and of the ship.  Breaking it down the simplest form is two triangles and a cylinder.  
     

     
    Glue those right on deck just behind the bowsprit.  Also another couple small pieces.  I put in a couple rectangular pieces one just behind the bowsprit and one on the bowsprit.  Looking at the photo of the other model it looks like theres a block on a stand just behind the bowsprit and a ships bell on the bowsprit.  I did a ships bell this small on the Scavenger but being a beginners build I thought a rectangle on the bowsprit would work.  I'll put a dot of gold paint where the bell goes. 
     

    From here I need to add cannons and then start on masts and rigging.  
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    DSiemens got a reaction from KeithAug in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Next part is the windlass.  The windlass is used to haul anchors and other heavy things on and of the ship.  Breaking it down the simplest form is two triangles and a cylinder.  
     

     
    Glue those right on deck just behind the bowsprit.  Also another couple small pieces.  I put in a couple rectangular pieces one just behind the bowsprit and one on the bowsprit.  Looking at the photo of the other model it looks like theres a block on a stand just behind the bowsprit and a ships bell on the bowsprit.  I did a ships bell this small on the Scavenger but being a beginners build I thought a rectangle on the bowsprit would work.  I'll put a dot of gold paint where the bell goes. 
     

    From here I need to add cannons and then start on masts and rigging.  
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    DSiemens got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    To make sure I have the right spacing for the bowsprit and the windlass I'm putting the bowsprit in next.  I cut a notch in the front bulwarks to get the angle of the bowsprit according to the plans.  
     

     

     
    I glue the bowsprit in the notch and to the deck.  I'm not worried about the bowsprit being pulled up by the rigging because of the bobstay.  The bobstay runs from the bowsprit to the stem.  As the bowsprit is pulled up the bobstay pulls it back and creates a fulcrum.  As the end of the bowsprit is pulled up the end attached to the hull will be pushed down.    
     

     
    In order to attach a bobstay to a stem I gotta have a stem.  Starting out I round out a piece of wood to match the hull.  I cut the top to match the angle of the bowsprit then round out what will be the front of the stem.
     


    Little more sanding to shape it and the stem is good to go.  I'm not doing the bobstay just yet but its something to keep in mind.  
     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Time to add in the bilge pumps.  Basically this piece.

     
    Breaking this down its a cylinder with a handle on top.  First I drilled a couple holes.  That ensures they aren't going anywhere.

     
    I like to use booboo scewers on round objects particularly masts and yards.  Its a sturdy material and it works well pulling through a draw plate.  Another great method is putting the scewer into a drill and turning it until its smaller.  I don't suggest turning in a Dremel though.  Dremels turn to fast which makes bamboo into a projectile.  Drills are slower and more controlled.  
    Once I have the skewers whittled down I cut off a piece and glue it in making sure they are the right hieght.  
     

     
    The handle I make out of a paint brush bristle.  Its thin and stays straight.  A little black paint gives it a good look.  Glue it on at an angle to look like the handle is sitting at rest. 

     

     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from mtaylor in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Next part is the windlass.  The windlass is used to haul anchors and other heavy things on and of the ship.  Breaking it down the simplest form is two triangles and a cylinder.  
     

     
    Glue those right on deck just behind the bowsprit.  Also another couple small pieces.  I put in a couple rectangular pieces one just behind the bowsprit and one on the bowsprit.  Looking at the photo of the other model it looks like theres a block on a stand just behind the bowsprit and a ships bell on the bowsprit.  I did a ships bell this small on the Scavenger but being a beginners build I thought a rectangle on the bowsprit would work.  I'll put a dot of gold paint where the bell goes. 
     

    From here I need to add cannons and then start on masts and rigging.  
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    DSiemens got a reaction from mtaylor in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    To make sure I have the right spacing for the bowsprit and the windlass I'm putting the bowsprit in next.  I cut a notch in the front bulwarks to get the angle of the bowsprit according to the plans.  
     

     

     
    I glue the bowsprit in the notch and to the deck.  I'm not worried about the bowsprit being pulled up by the rigging because of the bobstay.  The bobstay runs from the bowsprit to the stem.  As the bowsprit is pulled up the bobstay pulls it back and creates a fulcrum.  As the end of the bowsprit is pulled up the end attached to the hull will be pushed down.    
     

     
    In order to attach a bobstay to a stem I gotta have a stem.  Starting out I round out a piece of wood to match the hull.  I cut the top to match the angle of the bowsprit then round out what will be the front of the stem.
     


    Little more sanding to shape it and the stem is good to go.  I'm not doing the bobstay just yet but its something to keep in mind.  
     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from mtaylor in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Time to add in the bilge pumps.  Basically this piece.

     
    Breaking this down its a cylinder with a handle on top.  First I drilled a couple holes.  That ensures they aren't going anywhere.

     
    I like to use booboo scewers on round objects particularly masts and yards.  Its a sturdy material and it works well pulling through a draw plate.  Another great method is putting the scewer into a drill and turning it until its smaller.  I don't suggest turning in a Dremel though.  Dremels turn to fast which makes bamboo into a projectile.  Drills are slower and more controlled.  
    Once I have the skewers whittled down I cut off a piece and glue it in making sure they are the right hieght.  
     

     
    The handle I make out of a paint brush bristle.  Its thin and stays straight.  A little black paint gives it a good look.  Glue it on at an angle to look like the handle is sitting at rest. 

     

     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from Richard Griffith in Spanish Galleon by DSiemens - RESTORATION - E. Armitage McCann model   
    Thanks every one.  This has been a fun build.  Work is slow but sure.  I finished the transom and I think it turned out nice.
     


    I wish I could say I did all the wood carving on this but the reality is its not wood.  I saw some one on this forum say they used polymer clay for the intricate carvings.  So I decided to try it out.  Its not to bad.
     
    The transom was slightly different then it is in the book so I couldn't just copy the book directly but I got it pretty close. 
     
    Work on the rigging continues.
     



     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from mtaylor in Spanish Galleon by DSiemens - RESTORATION - E. Armitage McCann model   
    Thanks every one.  This has been a fun build.  Work is slow but sure.  I finished the transom and I think it turned out nice.
     


    I wish I could say I did all the wood carving on this but the reality is its not wood.  I saw some one on this forum say they used polymer clay for the intricate carvings.  So I decided to try it out.  Its not to bad.
     
    The transom was slightly different then it is in the book so I couldn't just copy the book directly but I got it pretty close. 
     
    Work on the rigging continues.
     



     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Spanish Galleon by DSiemens - RESTORATION - E. Armitage McCann model   
    A little more progress....

     
    In regards to the windows the book calls for tin foil painted with transparent blue paint.  I didn't have any transparent blue and paint didn't seem to stick to the aluminum foil so I just used the foil as is.  I had thought I saw the window cross hatch pattern before and found it again in some lace.  I ended up cutting the windowsills out of paper and then glueing them onto the foil with the lace inbetween.  Once the glue dried I cut the window out of the foil, painted the sills and put it on the ship.  

     

     

     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Spanish Galleon by DSiemens - RESTORATION - E. Armitage McCann model   
    Thanks every one.  This has been a fun build.  Work is slow but sure.  I finished the transom and I think it turned out nice.
     


    I wish I could say I did all the wood carving on this but the reality is its not wood.  I saw some one on this forum say they used polymer clay for the intricate carvings.  So I decided to try it out.  Its not to bad.
     
    The transom was slightly different then it is in the book so I couldn't just copy the book directly but I got it pretty close. 
     
    Work on the rigging continues.
     



     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from CaptainSteve in New and need help to identify a mystery model? Read here first!   
    One more that I've seen a a surprising amount of and they have a cool history.  In the late 1920's a man by the name of  Captain E Armitage McCann advertised ship modeling books in popular science magazine.  This was during the depression and his books were written to appeal to the poorer working class that might want an inexpensive hobby that would add some decor to their house.  This was also during a time some times referred to as the arts and crafts period.  The industrial revolution automated and mechanized so many thing so peoplewere afraid they would lose touch with real craftsmanship.  So they would hand build house decorations to keep rooted in manual hand built arts and crafts.  
     
    Any way Captain McCann did several books with these types of models and I've run into three such models that were built from his books.  Here's one I found on Etsy.  It sold,for around $50.  Goes to show some have an interesting history and are antiques but they still aren't worth much.  Still I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a McCann model built in the 1930's one of these days.  
     
     

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    DSiemens got a reaction from Ryland Craze in New and need help to identify a mystery model? Read here first!   
    Great stuff.  I've seen mystery models a lot on MSW as well as in my local club.  I do enjoy the guessing game they can turn into but in general yeah they arent worth a fortune.  There is some historical context that can be applied to a few of them.  This one for example I found in a thrift store.  I didnt purchase it because its worthless and I can build better.  It is antique though as it comes from a ship in bottle kit from the fifties.  A noticible aspect is the rope around the bottle.  The kit came with a bittle precut that was glued together once the ship was inside.  This was another aspect that makes it even more worthless.  A true ship in bottle goes through the bottle neck.  If the glass is cut a real collector will not give it a second glance. 
     

     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Now for some deck furniture.  Before I start I'd like to point out that the technique I use I learned from John Fox III.  He told me to break down the objects into their individual shapes.  For instance when you look at a cannon the main shapes are a cylinder that sits on a rectangular box.  By breaking down the shapes of objects it makes them easier to model at a small scale.  
     
    One other note.  One thing I do starting out with deck furniture is mark where the mast is going.  You don't want to put a hatch or a deck house right where the mast is supposed to be.  So I put a small pencil mark where the mast will be.
     
    The first piece I'll work on for this ship is the helm.  Breaking down the shapes for this helm, it will have a rectangular box that holds the helm and a circular object that is the helm. The box is easy enough I cut a piece of wood into a tiny box that fits the size I want and glue it in place.  The circular piece it harder.  It's hard to get circles small enough to fit the scale.  One of the great techniques of ship in bottle building though is to use found objects that fit the pieces you need.  Just as old sailors used bottles and wood scraps that were otherwise garbage on the ship, there is often objects lying around that can work for ships in bottles.  One technique I like a lot for helms is going down to the watch repair store and asking for spare gears.  Watch gears make very good helms.  We'll cover found objects more when I get to the cannons.    
     
    If you don't have access to a watch store there is another method that can be done with string.  Take a piece of string and tie loose knot. 
     

     
    Then slowly tighten that knot into a loop that is the size of the helm.   
     

     
    Glue it down and trim off the edges.  Any left over edges glue into the circle so you have a nice round piece of string.
     

     
    Then the piece of string is glued on to the rectangular box that holds up the helm.
     

     

     
    Report post   (IP: 97.118.17.116)       Posted June 5, 2018 Now for some deck furniture.  Before I start I'd like to point out that the technique I use I learned from John Fox III.  He told me to break down the objects into their individual shapes.  For instance when you look at a cannon the main shapes are a cylinder that sits on a rectangular box.  By breaking down the shapes of objects it makes them easier to model at a small scale.  
    One other note.  One thing I do starting out with deck furniture is mark where the mast is going.  You don't want to put a hatch or a deck house right where the mast is supposed to be.  So I put a small pencil mark where the mast will be.
    The first piece I'll work on for this ship is the helm.  Breaking down the shapes for this helm, it will have a rectangular box that holds the helm and a circular object that is the helm. The box is easy enough I cut a piece of wood into a tiny box that fits the size I want and glue it in place.  The circular piece it harder.  It's hard to get circles small enough to fit the scale.  One of the great techniques of ship in bottle building though is to use found objects that fit the pieces you need.  Just as old sailors used bottles and wood scraps that were otherwise garbage on the ship, there is often objects lying around that can work for ships in bottles.  One technique I like a lot for helms is going down to the watch repair store and asking for spare gears.  Watch gears make very good helms.  We'll cover found objects more when I get to the cannons.    
    If you don't have access to a watch store there is another method that can be done with string.  Take a piece of string and tie loose knot. 

    Then slowly tighten that knot into a loop that is the size of the helm.   

    Glue it down and trim off the edges.  Any left over edges glue into the circle so you have a nice round piece of string.

    Then the piece of string is glued on to the rectangular box that holds up the helm.  
     

    One thing to keep in mind is you don't need a perfect helm.  With the location and size chances are no one will even notice how the helm is modeled.  When it comes to modeling ships this size the details can be left out.  Often I find the mind has a way of recognizing the shapes and filling in the details.  So how far you take those details is up to you.  Personally I like the challenge.  In reality you could glue in the rectangular box with no helm and chances are no one would know the difference.
     
    Moving forward I modeled a small deck house.  It's more of a raised hatch on this ship.  The picture below is a good example of what this looks like and the Bermuda sloop deck in general.  The hatch just forward of the helm is made up of a box with a tilted top.  This top stick out over the edges slightly.  So to model it I cut a piece of wood into a box, sand the top down and glue on some paper strips on top.  Then with a pencil I made a mark for the hinges. 

     
    Looking at this photo know I think I have the helm in the wrong place.  All well it's already glued in.  Another important tip.  You are the captain of this ship and things go where you want them to go.  You can follow my instructions or do it your own way.  What ever makes you the captain the happiest with your work.   
     
    After the deck house I put in a couple hatches.  I can't remember if this is a Jim Goodwin technique or a Greg Alvey technique.  I learned it from one of them.  Any way, first I find some plans for hatches.  I googled it and found some that I pasted into word and copied and resized the photo to a lot of various sizes.  With the varied sizes I can makes hatches for a variety of ships by printing one page of hatches.  The word file I used for this ship is attached.  Once I have the hatches printed I turn the page over and lightly stain the back of the page.  That way the ink doesn't run.  The wood stain gives it a wood color and the ink makes it look like a hatch.  Then I cut out the hatch and glue it on the hull.  For this I use white glue.  This allows me plenty of time to put the hatch in position.  If you use super glue and the hatch goes down crooked it becomes a big mess.  
     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    DSiemens got a reaction from mtaylor in Maine Lobster Boat by Lord Nelson - FINISHED - 1/67 scale - BOTTLE   
    Good to see this one on here again.  I think there's a lot of pictures I hadn't seen before.  This really is a cool bottle.  The reflection in the water is my favorite part.  Great job.  
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    DSiemens got a reaction from BETAQDAVE in Red Dragon by Vivian Galad - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - modified   
    The frame looks good to me and I agree it will look nicer then the metal.  I wonder though are you planning on making them bigger than the metal fittings?
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    DSiemens got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Bermuda Sloop by DSiemens - Aprox: 1:300 - BOTTLE - How-to   
    Now for some deck furniture.  Before I start I'd like to point out that the technique I use I learned from John Fox III.  He told me to break down the objects into their individual shapes.  For instance when you look at a cannon the main shapes are a cylinder that sits on a rectangular box.  By breaking down the shapes of objects it makes them easier to model at a small scale.  
     
    One other note.  One thing I do starting out with deck furniture is mark where the mast is going.  You don't want to put a hatch or a deck house right where the mast is supposed to be.  So I put a small pencil mark where the mast will be.
     
    The first piece I'll work on for this ship is the helm.  Breaking down the shapes for this helm, it will have a rectangular box that holds the helm and a circular object that is the helm. The box is easy enough I cut a piece of wood into a tiny box that fits the size I want and glue it in place.  The circular piece it harder.  It's hard to get circles small enough to fit the scale.  One of the great techniques of ship in bottle building though is to use found objects that fit the pieces you need.  Just as old sailors used bottles and wood scraps that were otherwise garbage on the ship, there is often objects lying around that can work for ships in bottles.  One technique I like a lot for helms is going down to the watch repair store and asking for spare gears.  Watch gears make very good helms.  We'll cover found objects more when I get to the cannons.    
     
    If you don't have access to a watch store there is another method that can be done with string.  Take a piece of string and tie loose knot. 
     

     
    Then slowly tighten that knot into a loop that is the size of the helm.   
     

     
    Glue it down and trim off the edges.  Any left over edges glue into the circle so you have a nice round piece of string.
     

     
    Then the piece of string is glued on to the rectangular box that holds up the helm.
     

     

     
    Report post   (IP: 97.118.17.116)       Posted June 5, 2018 Now for some deck furniture.  Before I start I'd like to point out that the technique I use I learned from John Fox III.  He told me to break down the objects into their individual shapes.  For instance when you look at a cannon the main shapes are a cylinder that sits on a rectangular box.  By breaking down the shapes of objects it makes them easier to model at a small scale.  
    One other note.  One thing I do starting out with deck furniture is mark where the mast is going.  You don't want to put a hatch or a deck house right where the mast is supposed to be.  So I put a small pencil mark where the mast will be.
    The first piece I'll work on for this ship is the helm.  Breaking down the shapes for this helm, it will have a rectangular box that holds the helm and a circular object that is the helm. The box is easy enough I cut a piece of wood into a tiny box that fits the size I want and glue it in place.  The circular piece it harder.  It's hard to get circles small enough to fit the scale.  One of the great techniques of ship in bottle building though is to use found objects that fit the pieces you need.  Just as old sailors used bottles and wood scraps that were otherwise garbage on the ship, there is often objects lying around that can work for ships in bottles.  One technique I like a lot for helms is going down to the watch repair store and asking for spare gears.  Watch gears make very good helms.  We'll cover found objects more when I get to the cannons.    
    If you don't have access to a watch store there is another method that can be done with string.  Take a piece of string and tie loose knot. 

    Then slowly tighten that knot into a loop that is the size of the helm.   

    Glue it down and trim off the edges.  Any left over edges glue into the circle so you have a nice round piece of string.

    Then the piece of string is glued on to the rectangular box that holds up the helm.  
     

    One thing to keep in mind is you don't need a perfect helm.  With the location and size chances are no one will even notice how the helm is modeled.  When it comes to modeling ships this size the details can be left out.  Often I find the mind has a way of recognizing the shapes and filling in the details.  So how far you take those details is up to you.  Personally I like the challenge.  In reality you could glue in the rectangular box with no helm and chances are no one would know the difference.
     
    Moving forward I modeled a small deck house.  It's more of a raised hatch on this ship.  The picture below is a good example of what this looks like and the Bermuda sloop deck in general.  The hatch just forward of the helm is made up of a box with a tilted top.  This top stick out over the edges slightly.  So to model it I cut a piece of wood into a box, sand the top down and glue on some paper strips on top.  Then with a pencil I made a mark for the hinges. 

     
    Looking at this photo know I think I have the helm in the wrong place.  All well it's already glued in.  Another important tip.  You are the captain of this ship and things go where you want them to go.  You can follow my instructions or do it your own way.  What ever makes you the captain the happiest with your work.   
     
    After the deck house I put in a couple hatches.  I can't remember if this is a Jim Goodwin technique or a Greg Alvey technique.  I learned it from one of them.  Any way, first I find some plans for hatches.  I googled it and found some that I pasted into word and copied and resized the photo to a lot of various sizes.  With the varied sizes I can makes hatches for a variety of ships by printing one page of hatches.  The word file I used for this ship is attached.  Once I have the hatches printed I turn the page over and lightly stain the back of the page.  That way the ink doesn't run.  The wood stain gives it a wood color and the ink makes it look like a hatch.  Then I cut out the hatch and glue it on the hull.  For this I use white glue.  This allows me plenty of time to put the hatch in position.  If you use super glue and the hatch goes down crooked it becomes a big mess.  
     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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