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Thanks Ken, hopefully it turns out better than the last one.... I don't know about that one brother, everyone is welcome of course... just take it easy on the liquids ok? and don't forget to share the popcorn... I added rafters to the building so those that like to hang out up there can be more comfy... -
Now the pressure is on, {chuckle} I'll do my best, if I do it right it should look something like this.... Hasegawa... Or this, Original Italeri... Two different models, two different modelers... Both used the same product to produce that finish... There is a third as well (did a CF-104) This finish cannot be replicated with paint... Actually I'm going to go straight into the build with this one... I'll add a link to the old build to make the connection with the history... Your vampire will really look the business with this type of finish on her... I sincerely hope Alan, I can show it correctly, to a certain point this is still an experiment, my second attempt... But, if they could do it, I can do it...
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Thank you Gary, Very Very much... It's greatly appreciated....
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Ok, here we go, ROUND 2!!! Bluejay 4, the Iconic Starfighter as seen in The Star Trek Episode "Tomorrow is Yesterday" I call it round two cause most are familiar with the last time I tried this and failed to finish cause I basically didn't know what I was doing when trying to get an accurate Bare Metal Finish... By the time I finally burned out on it and had to quit I had learned how other great modelers did it and am now going to try again... Old Thread here... This time with a more modern version of the F-104C (latest Italeri kit) and I acquired the Eduard "Big Ed" photoetch set for this one... I still haven't decided what view I'm going to do with this model, I know it's going to represent the real aircraft though, but I think I'm going to put more details into this much improved kit that the previous Hasegawa kit would allow... Instead of the roll-out scramble view I was doing I'm going to do the full detail version like she is being maintained ready for the call to get the Enterprise... At least, that's the plan.... Anyways, I'm preparing for this one... It's going to be a long journey and of course since this is a real airplane with a real history I will go into parts of it's service history and it and it's pilots tragic ending... F-104C #57-0914 A great airplane with a great pilot... More when I get organized... Onwards
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When I watch all the old Vietnam war movies I chuckle when I see that or the guys that wait till the blades have stopped before they even open the door... Now on the early choppers yeah it was a consideration, those blades did have some droop and some of them actually were designed in a way that made such mandatory... (The Kaman Huskies & H-21's come to mind) but the Huey, the blades were stiff enough and high enough to not need to worry about it... On TV and the movies you can always tell a chopper guy from the wannabe's when they get closer to that rotating wing... chuckle
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Still one of the most dangerous places to be in this country as well, and it's not a combat zone...
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I can see four white blades brother in that pic... Thank you for those I didn't doubt you at all but it's nice to actually see it, strange that it wasn't picked up by some of the detail rags that seem to get printed every couple of years... I suspect it was considered a one off if anyone actually saw it... But this confirms that no it wasn't a one-off... Now I've got my odd detail for the Slick when I get around to it!! {chuckle} Thanks Thanks for the complements on the H-13's, the in country-in service persons will connect with the Air-evac bird I'm gathering... It's something they all can feel... The training bird will connect on a different level with a very select crowd and won't have the emotional draw than a bird that's coming to drag your butt out of a tight spot will... It definitely has that TV show "Whirlybird" look to it.... But it was worth modeling, tens of thousands of heli pilots got their introduction to flight in that bird and it's still one of the most liked helis flying today... Again thanks... EG
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Thank you, It was one of those trying to figure out what the kit fit in real life, cause it sure didn't fit a Korean War air ambulance and I didn't want to do what everyone else did... So it had to be a General Officers taxi or a training bird... The Ft Wolters scheme fit it better and it wouldn't be just another OD green machine... Not something modeled often... Much appreciated Ken...
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Thanks my friend, I haven't decided yet, but leaning towards something supersonic...
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Yes it is brother, my thoughts are that the kit designers use what is typical for the period they are designed for the details rather than doing the extensive research to get down to the color of the firehoses... All of us as modelers have to deal with it.... One of the vagaries of our chosen mediums... It's looking great though... even if the detail colors are a few decades off...
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The things above are not hoses, some kind of fitting like a nozzle extension or something, things under them ARE fire hoses, stowed in their brackets, which during the period were canvas and would be canvas colored when new, painted when they repainted the bulkhead... Kind like a radome tan or light sand/off whitish color... Definitely not red, red is post war composite hose probably Vietnam era or later.... Which is totally incorrect for the vessel...
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I was going to ask about those as well, they sure wouldn't be red during WWII... neither would the firehoses underneath them... Actually no, everything was painted, no brightwork was allowed to show and anything on a bulkhead was painted the color of the bulkhead.... (as per Ships 2, including canvas as well) they were very serious about it... Captains had a lot of leeway in when and how their ships were painted, but the details were according to Ships 2 without exception...
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They are known as Mandrels... and yes they were painted the same as the sides of the bulkheads they were next to initially, and then plain #5 Ocean Grey (actually a blue color) The camo on the ship and the colors used would be according to Ships 2 rev 3 1944, for an example here is Ships 2 Rev 2 from Feb. '43... But I understand the need to match the colors the kit used... Not advocating for a repaint... {chuckle}
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I'll vouch for that, I installed two of them to eliminate cross shadows, and they last 5 times longer than the regular bulbs... Much cheaper in the long run as well...
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Everyone who commented and gave likes and laughs... THANK YOU! and thanks for walking the journey with me it always greatly appreciated... Now for the final eye candy as I promised... The Spotlight and Litter Straps... Spotlight on the H-13H... H-13D/E complete... H-13H Complete.... And the flightline.... It was an enjoyable trip, thank you all for following along... The H-13 2 for 1 is complete! EG
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Well, I tried to make them authentic, did the best I could... Thank you It's appreciated very much... There were more markings that were supposed to go on the bottom side of the rotors, (installation dates and such) but they fell apart due to age and were just too tiny to save.. As it was each and every decal split in some fashion... And there are no aftermarket parts or accessories for this aircraft, so I had to make them work... I think I saved enough to make them presentable... The early days of Helicopters, you would think that they would understand that at times it is just not smart to be a stand up guy, especially during operating helicopter rotor maintenance training... Better to be a heads up guy rather than a stand up guy in that situation.... Live and learn, thankfully they took the lesson well and it only cost them some temporary pain and embarrassment... At least they can instruct the young ones in what happens to you when you stick your head in a turning rotor... I wonder if that was a lesson they really wanted to teach? They saved a lot of lives in that respect, they were worth every penny... Thank you for your service my friend...
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Thanks Chris, It's much appreciated... 241 can get complicated, even for such a small project as this.... Don't know if I'll do another...
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I think the Medical Evac version brother, is the one everyone will click on as it is the most known version.. partly cause of Mash, and partly cause of it's role of saving lives... Thank you very much... Next project coming soon...
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Thank you Ken, I think it came out the better of the two as well... (not counting everything I had to do to get it there) It's much appreciated..
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Decaling the H-13H... DONE... Only one more part for this one, the spot light hung under the bubble and then it's done.... At this point when they have the final little parts installed I'll be calling them done... I'll post a set of shots of each both alone and together... Thank you for coming along on the journey, it was an interesting trip, although I don't think I'm going to do another 2-4-1 anytime soon... Thank you EG
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That is one thing I learned from my research, markings were all over the place. There was a general theme but after a few months in service all other markings became catch as catch can... The funny thing is the white blade is a detail that didn't make it into the books, I've rechecked my sources and confirmed no one took a pic of it... or captured it on any film either... at least not that has been published... It's details like this that make being able to talk with someone who was there so interesting... Thank you Lou...
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Time for a bit of an update... I know I said it will be a few days, but I just spent 12 hours working with 35+ year old decals, fragile is the word... DONE!!! It's still not complete a few minor parts and some touching up and fixing to do... But I'm happy with it... Now to work the decals on the H-13H... EG
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Thanks Mark, I believe that the rational was it was a distraction to the pilot... Now that's an unusual one Lou, usually they did both sides equally, perchance could it have been a unit marking of some such?
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Thank you Mike It's really appreciated....
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