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Well I started the garboard strake dry fit and just didn't like a portion of the port side of the hull. Just seemed not quite right. So I sanded the area and then the whole hull again with 220 grit sand paper. Looks better now but I still wonder if I should sand it one more time but with 400 grit this time. Then install the second layer. How many times do you experienced folks sand the hull? I started with 100 grit, then 220 and now will do my final sanding with 400. THEN...after the second layer of hull planks are installed, start sanding lightly with 400 and 1000. Does that sound about right? The bottom half of the hull will be painted flat white and the upper portion will be stained mahogany. -
Okay thanks for the replies. I kind of thought I was going to have to line it all again. My major difficulty with planking the hull (whether the 1st or 2nd layer) is the Garboard Strake. For some reason the devil lives in that strake.
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I'm getting ready to start the 2nd layer of hull planking. I've triple check the sanded hull with eye, thin plank and cardboard and I'm seeing no peak or valleys. With the first layer of hull planking I used tick steps and divided the hull into 4 areas and used the method in the tutorial. (works great by the way). So my question is do I need to follow that same procedure (tick strips etc.) for the 2nd layer of planks?
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Couldn't find a way to remove the glue without damage so after discussing it with my friend, he decided to just make a new set of parts. Thanks for the assistance. Now back to the second layer of planking for my Mayflower build.
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Helping a friend who got ahead of himself on a build. Five runners were glued to the wrong side of a cabin piece with Gorilla Glue. How can I remove the Gorilla Glue?
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Roger. Thanks for the info. I'll have to get one of the books. The plans in the kit leave a lot to be desired.
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Thanks for the tip Mark. I'll remember that next time.
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Plans are no longer available. They went to a MWS member. Thanks for the interest. Allen Caron
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I have the plans of the Joseph Conrad ship. I purchased the plans to build the ship that got me interested in classic sailing ships. But I have come to realize that I will never be able to complete a build like this with my limited skills. So...before listing it on eBay I thought I'd offer it up here to Model Ship World members first. Cost to whomever wants it is free. I will wait till the end of next week before listing it on eBay. If you'd like it, email me at: Email Removed to Prevent Spam Thanks Allen Caron
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Faring the Frames
acaron41120 replied to acaron41120's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Hi Jaeon. When faring the frames on my Mayflower I used a sanding block I purchased from Lowes. Its a small yellow rubber piece that has different grit sandpaper that velcro to it. And I sanded the frames diagonally and along the length of the hull checking each frame as I went. Just easier for me that way. I do have a dremel tool with sanding bits but have not used it much. Probably because I'm old fashioned and like using my hands. Just remember to take it slowly and check a lot and you should find that you're have with the results. -
Okay! I found what I need at Michaels. Will just have to trace the pattern on is and I'll be set. Thanks everyone for all the help.
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Thanks for all the replies. I never knew that HD, Lowes or Ace hardware sold wood block. I'll give them a try today before going on line. The wood block is for fabricating the brass keel piece on the bottom of Billing Boats Dragen. It is item F443 in their fitting kit. billing boats.com experienced level, page 3, Dragen, click on plans in top right corner and scroll to last page for the F443 brass keel illustration.
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Hi Tom. That's great. Glad you could find one. I know how difficult ordering all the bits and pieces can be. Going through that now with the Billing Boats "Dragen" kit no. 582. I need the brass piece for the keel and I can't locate a kit anywhere. Billing hasen't answered my email from two weeks ago. So now I'm trying to locate a block of basswood to make the keel piece. The block is small and you'd think I could find one but nope! So far anyway. When you start your Golden Hind make a build log and I'll do the same and we'll compare notes.
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I have a Billing Boats "Dragen" (kit number 582) that I purchased on eBay knowing all the pieces of the fitting kit were not there. I ordered the few pieces and have them however, I cannot locate the brass keel piece. But I can make one out of wood. I have the dimensions and I'd like to make it out of a basswood block. The dimensions are 1-1/2" H x 9" long x 1/2" W. Does anyone know where I can purchase a basswood block that size? Our only hobby place is HobbyLobby and they have balsa but not Basswood. Thanks for any assistance.
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Tom, I have the Billing Boats Golden Hind (Ship Kit No. 480) and fitting kit in the hopper awaiting build. Get me your email and Wednesday (latest) I'll scan the fitting kit and email it to you. Allen
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I'm having a similar problem with Billing's Dragen. I have some of the fittings but others I do not. The biggest thing I need is the brass piece that fits on the bottom of the boat. I emailed BOTH @billingboats.com and billingboatsusa.com. All my ship models have been billing boats and in the assembly instruction manual at the end of the parts list is the Fitting list. Also if you go on line and select the model you want and click on the top right corner where they have manuals listed, the kit list is there as well. I'm waiting to hear from both billing sites now. I'll try Cornwall models later today! Hang in there and you'll either find what you need or end up making your own fittings.
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I've checked the Billing Boats USA site ands they don't have any for the Dragen. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give the actual Billing Boats site an email.
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I purchased a Billing Boats Dragen that I knew didn't have the fitting kit included. I usually see fitting kits on eBay for billing boats but can't find any. So I'm wanting to buy just the fitting kit for Billing Boats "Dragen." If anyone has one laying about they would like to rid themselves of, please let PM me and we'll see about working and agreeable sale. OR...if anyone knows of a place that sells them also please let me know. Thanks all.
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Thanks for all the excellent responses. I ended up ordering 1x5x500mm walnut strips (pack of 25) from Model Expo.
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Larry. I did some searching and found the web site for my building slip. Here you go: www.hobbyworld-usa.com/Store/index.php?id_product=2074&controller=product
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Larry. Back in the mid 70's while stationed in England, I lived in Felixstowe. A friend of mine was building the "Norske Love" by Billing Boats and I told him I was interested in trying that and he took me to the store where he purchased his kit and I stuck with Billing Boats. As for the building jig, I got it from Hobby Zone of England while doing a search for ship building jigs. I believe their web sit is hobbyzone.com.
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Greg Any idea of what Tanganica wood is and the color of it. How easy is it to work? Any one else? I've never heard of it.
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Finally got the garboard strake to fit. The kit planks are 1.8mm x 6 m x 550 mm. I used one 1.8mm x 10 m x 550 mm strip for the garboard strake starting on the port side. Need to sand the bottom of the strake just a tad in the middle and she'll fit in nicely. I used the method described in Donald Dressel's book "Planking Techniques for Model Ship Builders". It seemed, to me at least, to be the most straight forward method. After trimming, I soaked the strake in warm water for two hours before the test fit. Glenn. I typically bevel the bottom edge of any plank up to the wale.
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Tomorrow I intend to order the planks for my second layer of planking. I just don't know what thickness to order. In the first layer of planking the planks are 1.8 mm (thick) x 6 mm (wide) x 550 mm (long). When I ask on-line the response is always the width of the plank. I want to know how THICK the plank should be. The range seems endless. And the only hobby store is Hobby Lobby which is why I always have to order. I'm building the Mayflower by Billing Boats and just want to have the second player of planks on hand when I start the second layer of planking. I'm thinking the thickness should be about 0.5 mm thick. I thank you for your help in advance.
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I've read and re-read the planking article "Lining Off Your Hull for Planking on the MSW site but am having a heck of a hard time getting the Garboard Strake to fit without a small space between the keel/stem post and the bottom edge of the strake. No matter how hard I work at it with the cardboard and the strake I always seem to have that space. What am I missing? Any suggestions on how to handle this will be greatly appreciated.
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