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  1. Good on you Ed - great to see you rebuilding your Log.

     

    It's lucky you saved all of it in "Word" format - Copy/Paste will work easily. I've been sent 99.5% of my "HMS Vulture" Build Log by another member (thanks Midnight :D ) but it's in PDF format and needs to be converted into something I can Copy/Paste - a lengthy process that isn't working all that well yet. But I'll get it sorted soon.

     

    It's also good to see that you aren't replying to other posters in the actual Posts that deal with your Build, but using a separate post - a lesson I will be taking on board. It will be much easier to compile the Log when it's finished.

     

    Cheers, Danny

  2. Research and Materials

     

    This model is built using the four volume set of "The Fully Framed Model, HMN Swan Class Sloops 1767-1780" (hereby referred to as TFFM) written by David Antscherl and Greg Herbert (available from Seawatch Books) :

     

    David Antscherl's Books.jpg

     

    Further information was gleaned from copies of the original plans from the Royal Maritime Museum in Greenwich, London. Formerly known as The National Maritime Museum, I refer to it as the "NMM" in this Build Log.

     

    NMM Plans 002.jpg   NMM Plans 001.jpg

     

    Admiralty Models supplied a set of Plans of the Main Deck, Side Elevation and Deck Beam Profiles printed on Mylar. Also a CD of all the profiles of the Frames. I printed these out on A4 size sticky-backed Label Paper.

     

    NOTE that the Mylar plans from Admiralty Models are based on HMS Kingfisher, an early "Swan" Class ship. There are several differences in ships that followed later, hence the need for the NMM original plans for the particular ship you are building.

     

    Frames Printing 002.jpg

     

    Timber for the model was purchased from HobbyMill. This was pre-thicknessed to the various sizes need for each set of parts :

     

    HobbyMill Swan Framing - Pear.JPG

     

    The timber used :   Steamed Swiss Pear (two shades) for the majority of the Hull Framing and Deck Framing

    Castello Boxwood for Planking

    Ebony for the Wales and Detail parts

    Holly for very light colored parts and the Cutter Planking

     

    The above came from HobbyMill, I received the ones below from other modellers.

     

    Australian Cherry Ballart for the Bitts and other Deck Fittings

    English Box for Small Detail Fittings and Carvings

     

    Also from HobbyMill came a complete Masting Package :

     

    Masting Package 001.jpg

     

    Finally, I bought a Cutter Timbering Set and the Photoetch Set from Admiralty Models :

     

    Photoetch.jpg

  3. HMS Vulture - some History of the ship

     

    HMS Vulture was a 16 gun sloop of the Swan class, launched on 18 March 1776. She served during both the American Revolutionary War and the French Revolutionary War before being sold for disposal in 1802. The Vulture is perhaps best known for being the warship to which Benedict Arnold fled on the Hudson River in 1780 after unsuccessfully trying to betray the Continental Army's fortress at West Point, New York to the British.

     

    HMS Vulture had several areas of difference to previous ships of the class - she may have been used as an "experimental platform" for a few innovations. Whether these changes were later implemented on other ships is unknown.

     

    Length of Upper Deck : 96’7”

    Breadth : 26’ 4”

    Depth of Hold : 12’ 10”

    Burthen : 300 Tons

    Armament : 16 x 6 Pound Guns , 16 x ½ Pound Swivel Guns

     

     

    There were 24 ships of the Swan Class built between 1767 and 1780. Here is the complete list :

     

    Swan (1767)    Kingfisher (1770)    Cygnet (1776)    Atalanta (1775)    Pegasus (1776)    Fly (1776)    Swift (1777)

    Dispatch (1777)   Fortune (1777)  Hound (1776)    Hornet (1776)    Vulture (1776)    Spy (1776)    Cormorant (1776)

    Zebra (1777)    Chameleon (1777)    Fairy (1778)    Nymph (1778)    Savage (1778)    Fury (1779)    Delight (1778)

    Thorn (1779)    Bonetta (1779)    Shark (1779)    Alligator (1780)

     

    Some of these ships are being built by other members on MSW. Here are the Links to them :

     

    HMS Kingfisher :   Remco      Erik    Bob    Jeff

     

    HMS Atalanta :   Toni

     

    HMS Pegasus :   Ray     Andy     flyer     Bummer!    Maurice     Aldo     Spyglass     Caroline    daveor   Nils

     

    HMS Fly :   Christian     Chris     DiKri     Vitus    Adeline

     

    More Build Logs will be added to this list as they are submitted.

  4.  

    HMS Vulture Build Log Resurrection

     

     

    Following the Crash of  MSW in February 2013 I’ve attempted to re-create as much of my former Build log as I can. The  following is a very truncated version of the original. It doesn’t contain any of the comments posted by others, as they were unrecoverable. My apologies for that.

     

    I've also left out the MISTAKES I made during the construction in the "Resurrection" section. Some of them can be found in this Topic : How I Fix Boo-Boos and Oopsies

     

    The original Build Log was started on June 11 2011. Actual work on the model commenced on Wednesday August 17 2011.

    The Build Log was terminated on February 14 2013 (the day the Server crashed), and Re-building it started the day MSW came back on-line.

     

     

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    Following is an Index to "Points of Interest". you can Click on the Links to jump straight to the First Post that starts a particular Section.

     

    Links to other Sites in the following pages, e.g. Tool Suppliers, look like this : Sherline . You can jump straight to their Webpage by Clicking on them. Note : I have no affiliation with any of the Suppliers I have posted Links to - just a happy customer.

     

    To return to the Index Click on the "HMS Vulture" Link in the Signature in one of my Posts, or use the "Back" Arrow of your Browser. There are no Signatures under my posts in the Reconstruction phase to save page room.

     

    The Index will be updated as work progresses.

     

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    Index to Points of Interest

     

    Page 1

    HMS Vulture - some History of the ship + Links to Build Logs of other Swan Class Ships on MSW

    Research and Materials + Links to Suppliers

    How the Model will be built

    Tools
    Preparations

    Clamps and Planking Pins

     

    Laying the Keel

    Lower Apron

    Stem and Fore Deadwood

    Aft Deadwood

    Sternpost

    Rising Wood

    Cutting Rabbets and Fitting the Mounting Nuts

    Cutting, Shaping and Fitting Transoms

    Cutting the Bowsprit Seat

    Fashion Pieces

    Bollard Timbers

    Timberheads and Bowsprit Chock

    Forward Cant Frames and Hawse Timbers

    Forward Cant Frames

    Aft Cant Frames

    Side Counter Timbers and Timbers on the Side Counter

    Aft Cant Fairing

    Knee of the Head Construction

    Aft Square Frames

    Frame Bend

    Shifted Toptimber

    Fixed Blocks

     

    Page 2

    Frames all Fitted

    Toptimber Aligning and External Fairing

    Treenailing Frames

    Keelson

    Pump Recesses

    Stemson

    Fillings

    Harpins

    Ribbands

    Limber Strakes

    Floorhead Thickstuff and Treenails

    Mast Steps

    Aft Crutch and Lower Breasthook

    Limber Boards

    Lower Well and Shot Locker

    Chain Pump Inlets

    Pump Tubes

    Chain Pump Sprocket

    Lower Deck Clamps

    Footwaling

    Internal Treenailing

    Aft Platform

    Aft Platform Carlings and Ledges

    Aft Platform Bulkheads and Spirit Room Hatch

    Lower Deck Beams

    Fore Platform and Bulkheads

    Lower Deck Hook

    Block Room and Tar Room Bulkheads

    Magazine Bulkheads and Mizzen Boxing

    Lightroom

     

    Page 3

    Finishing the Magazine

    Aft Platform Rooms

    Upper Deck Clamps and Ceiling

    Lower Deck Beam Carling Mortices

    Lodging and Hanging Knees

    Pillars in the Hold

    Opposed Knees, Beam Arms and Iron Knees

    Lower Deck Beams, Carlings and Ledges

    Chain Pump Inlets and Tubes Fitted

    Sleepers

    Lower Deck Waterways and Spirketting

    Riding Bitts - stage 1

    Upper Deck Beams

    Lower Deck Planking

    Hooked Planks

    Lower Deck Treenailing

    Hatch Coamings and Companions

    Lower Deck Breasthook

    Forward Room Bulkheads

    Upper Deck Pillars and Beam Set

    Forward Rooms Bulkheads and Scuttles

    Forward Bulkheads Finishing

    Riding Bitts and Sail Room

    Wing Transom Knees

    Bread Room Bulkhead and Pillars

    Aft Bulkheads

    Pantry

    Upper Well

    Upper Deck Framing Finished

    Upper Deck Ledges

     

    Page 4

    Upper Deck Waterways

    Mast Wedges

    Main Mast Partners

    Aft Beam Arms, Carlings and Ledges

    Mizzen and Foremast Partners

    Main Topsail Sheet Bitts part 1

    Upper Deck Hatch Coamings

    Capstan Step

    Upper Deck Planking

    Top and Butt (Anchor Stock) Deck Planking

    Upper Deck Treenailng

    Counter Timbers

    String in the Waist

    Quarterdeck Clamp and Transom

    Ebony Wales and "Dummy" Treenails

    "Black" Strake

    Topside Planking

    Port Stops and Sweep Ports

    Spirketting,Quckwork and Inside Sweep Ports Trimming

    Treenailing Spirketting and Quickwork

    Upper Deck Companions

    Helm Port

    Lower Counter Planking

    Garboard Strake

    Lower Hull Planking

    Top and Butt Planking

    Tricky Plank

    Hull Planking Continues

    Hull Planking Finished

    Starboard Sheer Strake

     

    Page 5

    Scuppers

    Main Topsail Sheet Bitts

    Main Jeer Bitts

    Forecastle Deck Beams

    Hawse Holes Finishing

    Fore Topsail Sheet Bitts

    Bucklers

    Upper Deck Breasthook

    Bowsprit Partner, Hanging and Lodging Knees

    Manger

    Riding Bitts

    Galley Stove 1

    Galley Stove 2

     

    END OF BUILD LOG RECONSTRUCTION

     

    Chain Pump Cisterns

    Pump Chain

    Pump Brakes

    Rhodings

    Forward Stanchions, Cistern Hood and Pump Dale

    Capstans

     

    Rudder

        Main Piece

        Bearding

        Pintles

        Spectacle Plate

        Bands

        Gudgeons

        Rudder Shipped

        Rudder Coat

     

    Forward Athwartships Aft Cabin Bulkhead

    Bulkhead Doors

    Aft Athwartships Aft Cabin Bulkhead

    Longitudinal Aft Cabin Bulkhead

    Upper Counter Planking

    Forecastle Bulkhead

    Forecastle Bulkhead Lights

    Making Stern Light Frames

    Stern Lights Completing

    Rudder Head Trunk

    Great Cabin Lockers

    Completing Great Cabin

    Rudder Head Partners

    Transom Iron Knees

     

    Guns

        Brackets

        Barrels

        Capsquares

        Drilling the Bolt Holes

        Axletrees

        Carriage Assembly Jig

        Trucks

        Bed

        Quoins

        Hardware

        Breech Rigging

        Side Tackles

      

    Forecastle and Quarterdeck Carlings

    Forecastle Knees

    Catheads

    Catheads Fitted

    Cathead Caps

    Steam Grating Coamings

    Steam Grating

    Galley Cowl

    Cowl Baffle

    Breast Beams

    Forecastle Half-Door and Light

    Quarterdeck Hanging Knees

    Cast Knee

    Quarterdeck Lodging Knees

    Beam Bracket

    Quarterdeck Hatch Coamings

    Capstan Step

    Forecastle and Quarterdeck Waterways

    Forecastle and Quarterdeck Planking

    Forecastle and Quarterdeck Treenailing

    Bulwark Spirketting

    Gun Rigging Re-do

    Gangboard Knees

    Planksheers in the Waist

    Hances

    Making Timberheads

    Timberhead Jig

    Forecastle Planksheers

    Forecastle Timberheads

    Quarterdeck Timberheads

    Gangways and Gangboards

    Entry Steps to the Waist

    Gallows Crosspiece

    Preparing Tuck Molding and Waist Rails

     

    Quarter Badge

       Quarter Badge Stools and Munions

       Upper Finishing

       Lower Finishing

       Carving the Finishing and Glazing Lights

       Pilasters

       Quarter Badge Crown

     

    Chesstrees

    Channels

    Sheer Rails

    Standards

    Drift Rails

    Main Studding Sail Boom Irons

    Fenders

    Entry Steps

    Swivel Gun Mounts

    Fore Jeer Bitts

    Belfry

    Forecastle Railing and Spar Rack

    Companion Top

    Ship's Wheel

    Quarterdeck Ladderway

    Ladderway Railings

    Quarterdeck Breastwork

    Fixed Gangway Newel Posts and Railings

    Taffarel

    Taffarel Capping Rail

    Ensign Staff Block and Clamp

    Quarter Pieces

    Roughtree Rail

    Brake Pumps Fitted

    Steering Rigging

     

     

     

    This INDEX has grown too large, so I will start a 2nd one. It can be accessed by clicking the link below.

     

    Link to Index Part 2

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