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Good on you Ed - great to see you rebuilding your Log.
It's lucky you saved all of it in "Word" format - Copy/Paste will work easily. I've been sent 99.5% of my "HMS Vulture" Build Log by another member (thanks Midnight ) but it's in PDF format and needs to be converted into something I can Copy/Paste - a lengthy process that isn't working all that well yet. But I'll get it sorted soon.
It's also good to see that you aren't replying to other posters in the actual Posts that deal with your Build, but using a separate post - a lesson I will be taking on board. It will be much easier to compile the Log when it's finished.
Cheers, Danny
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Research and Materials
This model is built using the four volume set of "The Fully Framed Model, HMN Swan Class Sloops 1767-1780" (hereby referred to as TFFM) written by David Antscherl and Greg Herbert (available from Seawatch Books) :
Further information was gleaned from copies of the original plans from the Royal Maritime Museum in Greenwich, London. Formerly known as The National Maritime Museum, I refer to it as the "NMM" in this Build Log.
Admiralty Models supplied a set of Plans of the Main Deck, Side Elevation and Deck Beam Profiles printed on Mylar. Also a CD of all the profiles of the Frames. I printed these out on A4 size sticky-backed Label Paper.
NOTE that the Mylar plans from Admiralty Models are based on HMS Kingfisher, an early "Swan" Class ship. There are several differences in ships that followed later, hence the need for the NMM original plans for the particular ship you are building.
Timber for the model was purchased from HobbyMill. This was pre-thicknessed to the various sizes need for each set of parts :
The timber used : Steamed Swiss Pear (two shades) for the majority of the Hull Framing and Deck Framing
Castello Boxwood for Planking
Ebony for the Wales and Detail parts
Holly for very light colored parts and the Cutter Planking
The above came from HobbyMill, I received the ones below from other modellers.
Australian Cherry Ballart for the Bitts and other Deck Fittings
English Box for Small Detail Fittings and Carvings
Also from HobbyMill came a complete Masting Package :
Finally, I bought a Cutter Timbering Set and the Photoetch Set from Admiralty Models :
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HMS Vulture - some History of the ship
HMS Vulture was a 16 gun sloop of the Swan class, launched on 18 March 1776. She served during both the American Revolutionary War and the French Revolutionary War before being sold for disposal in 1802. The Vulture is perhaps best known for being the warship to which Benedict Arnold fled on the Hudson River in 1780 after unsuccessfully trying to betray the Continental Army's fortress at West Point, New York to the British.
HMS Vulture had several areas of difference to previous ships of the class - she may have been used as an "experimental platform" for a few innovations. Whether these changes were later implemented on other ships is unknown.
Length of Upper Deck : 96’7”
Breadth : 26’ 4”
Depth of Hold : 12’ 10”
Burthen : 300 Tons
Armament : 16 x 6 Pound Guns , 16 x ½ Pound Swivel Guns
There were 24 ships of the Swan Class built between 1767 and 1780. Here is the complete list :
Swan (1767) Kingfisher (1770) Cygnet (1776) Atalanta (1775) Pegasus (1776) Fly (1776) Swift (1777)
Dispatch (1777) Fortune (1777) Hound (1776) Hornet (1776) Vulture (1776) Spy (1776) Cormorant (1776)
Zebra (1777) Chameleon (1777) Fairy (1778) Nymph (1778) Savage (1778) Fury (1779) Delight (1778)
Thorn (1779) Bonetta (1779) Shark (1779) Alligator (1780)
Some of these ships are being built by other members on MSW. Here are the Links to them :
HMS Kingfisher : Remco Erik Bob Jeff
HMS Atalanta : Toni
HMS Pegasus : Ray Andy flyer Bummer! Maurice Aldo Spyglass Caroline daveor Nils
HMS Fly : Christian Chris DiKri Vitus Adeline
More Build Logs will be added to this list as they are submitted.
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HMS Vulture Build Log Resurrection
Following the Crash of MSW in February 2013 I’ve attempted to re-create as much of my former Build log as I can. The following is a very truncated version of the original. It doesn’t contain any of the comments posted by others, as they were unrecoverable. My apologies for that.
I've also left out the MISTAKES I made during the construction in the "Resurrection" section. Some of them can be found in this Topic : How I Fix Boo-Boos and Oopsies
The original Build Log was started on June 11 2011. Actual work on the model commenced on Wednesday August 17 2011.
The Build Log was terminated on February 14 2013 (the day the Server crashed), and Re-building it started the day MSW came back on-line.
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Following is an Index to "Points of Interest". you can Click on the Links to jump straight to the First Post that starts a particular Section.
Links to other Sites in the following pages, e.g. Tool Suppliers, look like this : Sherline . You can jump straight to their Webpage by Clicking on them. Note : I have no affiliation with any of the Suppliers I have posted Links to - just a happy customer.
To return to the Index Click on the "HMS Vulture" Link in the Signature in one of my Posts, or use the "Back" Arrow of your Browser. There are no Signatures under my posts in the Reconstruction phase to save page room.
The Index will be updated as work progresses.
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Index to Points of Interest
Page 1
HMS Vulture - some History of the ship + Links to Build Logs of other Swan Class Ships on MSW
Research and Materials + Links to Suppliers
Cutting Rabbets and Fitting the Mounting Nuts
Cutting, Shaping and Fitting Transoms
Timberheads and Bowsprit Chock
Forward Cant Frames and Hawse Timbers
Side Counter Timbers and Timbers on the Side Counter
Page 2
Toptimber Aligning and External Fairing
Floorhead Thickstuff and Treenails
Aft Crutch and Lower Breasthook
Aft Platform Carlings and Ledges
Aft Platform Bulkheads and Spirit Room Hatch
Block Room and Tar Room Bulkheads
Magazine Bulkheads and Mizzen Boxing
Page 3
Lower Deck Beam Carling Mortices
Opposed Knees, Beam Arms and Iron Knees
Lower Deck Beams, Carlings and Ledges
Chain Pump Inlets and Tubes Fitted
Lower Deck Waterways and Spirketting
Upper Deck Pillars and Beam Set
Forward Rooms Bulkheads and Scuttles
Bread Room Bulkhead and Pillars
Page 4
Aft Beam Arms, Carlings and Ledges
Main Topsail Sheet Bitts part 1
Top and Butt (Anchor Stock) Deck Planking
Ebony Wales and "Dummy" Treenails
Spirketting,Quckwork and Inside Sweep Ports Trimming
Treenailing Spirketting and Quickwork
Page 5
Bowsprit Partner, Hanging and Lodging Knees
END OF BUILD LOG RECONSTRUCTION
Forward Stanchions, Cistern Hood and Pump Dale
Rudder
Forward Athwartships Aft Cabin Bulkhead
Aft Athwartships Aft Cabin Bulkhead
Longitudinal Aft Cabin Bulkhead
Guns
Forecastle and Quarterdeck Carlings
Forecastle Half-Door and Light
Forecastle and Quarterdeck Waterways
Forecastle and Quarterdeck Planking
Forecastle and Quarterdeck Treenailing
Preparing Tuck Molding and Waist Rails
Quarter Badge
Quarter Badge Stools and Munions
Carving the Finishing and Glazing Lights
Forecastle Railing and Spar Rack
Fixed Gangway Newel Posts and Railings
This INDEX has grown too large, so I will start a 2nd one. It can be accessed by clicking the link below.
- ltx0508, Erebus and Terror, MRJG and 3 others
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Hi Remco,
Welcome back. I'm hoping to get ALL (or most of anyway) my Build Log back from "midnight" (Dave) tonight.
Apparently he's saved a fair bit of yours as well - I'll ask.
Danny
HMS Kingfisher 1770 by Remcohe - 1/48 - English 14-Gun Sloop - POF
in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
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Hi Remco,
Good to see you back at it .
Only about 2000 .
Danny