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Wawona59
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Welcome to Model Ship World! Ship modeling is a great, relaxing, pastime (most of the time) and Model Ship World is, in my opinion, the best ship modeling site. MSW has about 40,000+ members worldwide. Our members have experience from newbie/novice to expert with 50+ years of ship modeling experience and everything in between. I've never had anything but positive feedback from any MSW member. For a little inspiration, check out some of the build logs in both kit as well as scratch built models. Welcome aboard and don't be shy about asking questions.
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I think this model could be built as either the C.A. Thayer or Wawona as both are essentially the same. Can you guess what my preference would be? -
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Wawona59 replied to sgrez's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
I must agree with the suggestion above to substitute the plywood with a softwood like basswood or Alaskan Yellow Cedar or something similar. Use the plywood as a template and use strip of basswood or AYC which is the same width and thickness as the plywood bullworks. Another technique not mentioned yet is kerf bending. Kerf bending involves a series of shallow saw cuts to make the wood more flexible at the area of the curve. If you make the kerf cuts on the outside of the bullworks any final hull planking will cover them up. Based on your photograph, you should not need too many kerf cuts (only at the point of the curve). Be careful not to cut all the way through the wood. This should also work on the plywood bullworks also. I usually replace plywood with solid material so I don't have any personal experience kerf bending plywood. The key is to practice on some scrap of the same material. Here's a link to a diagram of what I'm talking about. Wood Bending by Kerfing - Lost Art Press Happy modeling!! -
I must agree with Jan's suggestion in post #6 above. By using a used/broken x-acto blade you can take minute shavings an "sneak up" on the desired width of space needed. Try using the back of the knife blade to avoid cutting deeply into the adjacent plank. You could also put a small burr on the back of the blade using a hardened steel shaft of a small screwdriver or the handle of a small file. There are also many different shapes of knife blades available to suit your purpose. You could also use a small bulldog clip similar to the one shown in post #10 above as a handle. A small metal ruler could be used as a fence to keep the edges straight. Good luck! Every modeling challenge can be overcome with some thought and ingenuity.
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Hi all, Here's a link to the YouTube 1980 video called "Ghosts of Cape Horn" narrated by the late Jason Robards. I understand that Gordon Lightfoot wrote his song "Ghosts of Cape Horn" for this video. Towards the end of this video is the song "Song of the Sea" by Eliza Gilkeson. I believe "Song of the Sea" is hauntingly beautiful and well worth a listen in my opinion. Enjoy
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Well Rob, it's time for me to fess up. I've been a lurker following this build since almost day one. I am simply awestruck with the quality and crispness of your workmanship. I really like your representation of the Muntz metal bottom sheathing, it's spectacular. By the way, I recently acquired a copy of "Clipper Ship Captain by Michael Mjelde. Lo and behold, it's signed by Michael to his brother, dated December, 1997. Do you think Michael would like this back? I could send it to him as soon as I get a replenishment of my retirement modeling/slush fund and Michael's mailing address. I'm so glad to see that you are doing better.
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The Oregon Historical Society also has a 4 page set of plans. You can request the plans here: Collection: Steamer Bailey Gatzert plans | ArchivesSpace Public Interface I believe these might be the same plans that Taubman Plans is selling.
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Wow woodartist! You and I seem to be on the same wavelength. I've been researching the Bailey Gatzert. The sternwheeler was named after Bailey Gatzert, the first Jewish mayor of Seattle in 1875 (I believe). Please PM me and I will share with you everything that I have accumulated. I've got photographs, drawings as well as a brief history of her from the Oregon Historical Society. Hope to hear from you soon.
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Very clever and effective technique for making the nail dimples on the copper strip. I'm going to have to remember that one. Your Connie is coming along nicely. You're going to have an outstanding model when you've finished.
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Hi danwind, first off, a warm welcome to you to Model Ship World. Don't be concerned that there are other President builds on MSW. This forum is not about sharing information on a particular ship but rather some of the challenges you faced in your build and how you addressed them. That's how we learn from others. I'm sure you will get the hang of uploading pictures. As far as I'm concerned, there can never be enough ship model pictures. Welcome to Model Ship World, you're in the right place.
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Well woodartist, thank you for your comment and given our locations in the Pacific Northwest, I'm not surprised that we are both West Coast Lumber Schooner fans. I visited the Wawona as a child in the mid 60's. I also took my kids to visit the Wawona in the early 2000's. They pretended they were pirates when they found an old sea chest in the restored captain's cabin. Shortly thereafter in 2009 the Wawona was towed to Lake Union drydock for demolition. Evidently the multimillion dollar restoration cost was far beyond what the owners, Northwest Seaport could afford as there was a lot of rotten wood that needed to be replaced. Due to ongoing health issues, I'll be selling my wooden ship kit stash on MSW but will save one last hurrah for when Bluejacket releases their West Coast Lumber Schooner kit later this year (hopefuly). So now, the C.A. Thayer in San Francisco is the only West Coast Lumber Schooner left. The Thayer looks like aa beautiful restoration.
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Hi Julie, I've been following your Forester build. Being from the Seattle and Puget Sound area, I've developed a keen interest in our maritime history. Lumber was a huge industry and there were shipyards scattered all around the Puget Sound area at the turn of the 19th century. Regarding sails, I would build your Forester with a full compliment of sails. Master ship modeler Tom Lauria has posted a series of videos on YouTube on how to make sails using Silkspan. Carry on with your build. I'll be following with interest.
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Hi Dan, Welcome to Model Ship World. I too dabbled in O Guage trains when my kids were little. My son usually accompanied me to the train store to buy more rolling stock. The kids are all grown now and the trains have been carefully packed away. My primary interest is in sailing ships but I also build 1/72 airplanes for displays. You're in the right place.
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It's nice to see someone build a West Coast Lumber Schooner. This genre seems to have been ignored since I haven't seen too many lumber schooner models built. I am eagerly anticipating the release of Bluejacket's West Coast Lumber model which is currently in development. Bluejacket has informed me that they expect to release the kit sometime at the end of the year. I'm planning to build the model as the Wawona, hence my screen name. I visited the Wawona in 1966 as a cub scout field trip. I also took my kids (now fully grown) to visit her when they were four and seven years old. They pretended they were pirates. Great memory. I'm looking forward to following your build of the Forester.
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Thanks for bringing this topic up Rich. Dull edge tool not only result in poor workmanship; but they are dangerous as well. I'm sure there are many methods among MSW members for sharpening edge tools. It would be very interesting to see other members' methods. I work primarily with hand tools and grind my straight edge blades using an antique hand crank grinder grinding jig. I hone my blades with sharpening honing guide with oil stones medium and fine grade stones and finish up with a surgical black stone. I also polish the backs of my chisels to a mirror finish using a steel diamond plate of fine and extra fine grits. Is this a topic other MSW members would be interested in? I'll start a new topic in this forum. Hopefully, I'll be able to post something this upcoming weekend.
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You might get what you are looking for by contacting Dr. Kroum Batchvarov. He has answered many questions for me through his YouTube channel. He also happens to be married to Model Ship World member Olha Batchvarov. Dr. Batchvarov will be able help you. Kroum Batchvarov | Department of Anthropology Dr. Batchvarov’s main research focus is in maritime archaeology of 17th-century seafaring. He specializes in English and Dutch ship construction. … Email: kroum.batchvarov@uconn.edu
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Hi Greg, I'm glad that you got to visit the hydro museum in Kent, very interesting place for a hydro fan. The hydroplane races on Lake Washington were a big deal when I was a kid in the 6o's. Well, this evening I dug out my Slo-Mo-IV kit and began cutting out and dry fitting the laser cut frames. The laser cutting on my kit is very precise and well done. This evening, I got all of the bulkheads cut out and dry fit. Now comes the sanding and fairing. I probably should start a build log. This will be part of the Seattle-based models I'm planning to build, including the 1/96 West Coast Lumber Schooner that Bluejacket is currently developing. Are you planning to build your Slo-Mo-IV as static or RC? PM me if you get a chance.
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Looking more and more like the CA Thayer or Wawona. We can only hope as they were both basically the same ship. I'm staying tuned for coming attractions. From the black hull color and yellow sheer line my guess would be the C.A. Thayer as the Wawona had a green hull.
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New to the Wooden Ship Assembly/Build Community
Wawona59 replied to rturcic72's topic in New member Introductions
A warm welcome to MSW! You've taken on quite a challenge. I built the Revell plastic Connie when I was a kid, many moons ago. When my parents sold their house the buyer wanted all of my models included in the sale. Thus went my Connie. I'll build another Connie hopefully, but not likely at my age. I hope you get a chance to check out the outstanding Connie build logs on MSW. -
Greetings from Washington state, USA
Wawona59 replied to Paul B.'s topic in New member Introductions
Hi Paul, Welcome to Model Ship World! It's nice to see another modeler from the great Pacific Northwest join our group. I hail from Renton WA south of Seattle. My modeling interests are aviation and PNW maritime history. While I've got a couple of my models on permanent display at the Seattle Museum of Flight, I'm also very interested in the local maritime history as well. If you look at my signature you'll see one of the vessels I'm particularly interested in, WELCOME TO MODEL SHIP WORLD! -
Dear Sheepsail, Welcome to MSW! I can't remember when I've read such a diverse and interesting introduction as yours on MSW. I am a retired accountant and lawyer (please don't hold that against me) and taught college-level accounting and business law courses for 32 years until I retired in 2022. I'm amazed at the vast knowledge base of the MSW members. I'm in a different league compared to many of the other MSW members. I'd love to see some of your horology work. I've got a couple of old clocks that only show the correct time two times per day (not running). I've never gotten around to fixing them. Regarding the Titanic model; Yes, we don't need another Titanic, Victory or even Constitution as there are too many floating around. Have you given any thought to building a Titanic as her sister ship Britanic? There are not very many Britanic models around that I've seen. I like to model the unusual and unique subjects. Welcome to MSW!
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Hi Greg, Your coppering is fantastic! Your use of Tamiya tape to define the gore line really results in a clean edge. I need to remember that tip. Fortunately, my next few models will not have copper bottoms. (It least that's what my plan is now) Beautiful work!
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Nice rendering of the windows Al. I've seen something similar done on other model kits in photo etch. I'm chompin' at the bit to see the final reveal. Looks like she's going to be a wonderful much anticipated kit.
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I recently came across this short video on ship models of the US Presidents. I found it interesting and thought my MSW ship modeling friends would enjoy this too. There's even a photograph of Pres. Franklin Delano Roosevelt building a ship model. According to the narrator, ship models are not just objects, they can also tell a story. Enjoy
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She's looking good Al. Thank you for the updates. Please keep 'em coming. I'm looking forward to seeing the final reveal.
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