Arthur Goulart
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Loracs, I'm using Rhinoceros, I found it to be rather intuitive, messing around with it a little and some quick google searchs have gone a long way for me. I have not tried something different, so I can't compare. Rhino seems to be what most folks use here too. And, part of the reason I started this topic is that I haven't found one that adresses my questions regarding redrawing plans, so I hope to crowd source some knowledge through here.
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So, I wanted a not too complicated to learn both 3D modelling and ship construction. I decided to go with a ship's boat, because you can't get much simpler than that for a first scratch project, and because the result might come in handy in the future for ships that, well, will be fitted with boats. Imagine the designer behind the plans had access to a CAD program, that is what I'm aiming to achieve. Thus, I'm looking at understanding how ship's lines were formed, so I can reconstruct this little launch from principle, not from merely tracing all the plan's lines. With that, I hope to get a more accurate model to the original designer's vision, by mitigating the limitations of the hand drawings and measurements of the time, of the 200+ years of wear the plans have been through, and of the distortion the scanning process might've added on top of it all. On this topic, I'll be registering my progress, in a step by step manner. I insist that you guys point out where I've got something wrong, even if you're not sure of it yourself, we might learn something by looking into it! I'm expecting to make plenty mistakes, and the purpose to pick something simple is that I can start it all over again without pulling too many of my hairs off. So far, my main reference has been The Elements and Practices of Naval Architecture, from '§ 2. OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SHEER DRAUGHT OF THE EIGHTY GUN SHIP, FROM THE GIVEN DIMENSIONS' (p. 242) and onwards. Steel's book is aimed mostly at full on ships, but many instructions are aplicable to our purposes, many require a fair deal of interpretation - he is not the most clear and didactic, which is not helped by my still limited knowledge of ship building vocabulary, and by english not being my first language. Why this 23ft launch was picked, specifically? I tried a couple different boats out, I made some sense of this one the faster. The stem's radii and those of the midship frame are really important dimensions that I struggled with on other plans, but that I fairly confidently figured out for this launch. My take is that ship's boats were neglected subjects in their time, at least from a more technical stand point, and that today they likewise get less attention when compared to the more complex and exciting subjects, hopefully this will be a more thorough and complete reconstruction. The next post, I'll take you back to the beggining of the model's construction, but, for now, I'll leave you with how the model is looking present-day: - Arthur
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Chuck, I've been silently admiring your work over the last few months. I'd really like to build one of your kits, but I can't really justify it atm. See, I live in Brazil, currency conversion makes costs pretty proibitive, add to that 60% import tax (I mean... That's insane). That, and I'm fiddeling myself through building a MSW Bluenose, but it's more of a scratch build project at this point, because the kit is really that poor, anyways, that's a tangent. The point is, I'd definetely buy that small boat if you were to sell it as a regular project. It looks like it will be a quick, well put together, relatively inexpensive kit, and I'm all for it. Cheers!
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Too slowly, Richard 😆. I'm really struggling to find the time to work on her, but so far, I'm happy with how it's coming along. I'm modifying the the kit pieces so they are more accurate to plans, and I'm improving on its construction method, for instance, I'm making the keel/stem as separate pieces, to be fitted down the line, once the planking is already finished. I'll be posting it all on my thread, but none of it is yet finished, so...
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Thanks for the tips, Richard, on both threads! Good that you mentioned beveling the bulkheads before installing them. I was planning on marking the bevel lines, but only sanding after installing all the bulkheads, is there any disadvantage to this approach?
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It definetely helps, Richard, thank you! Yeah... I think I'll have to adjust most of the keyways. On all three pieces one of the keyways aligns up perfectly, another one or two are similar enough to the plans - I think I can get away with just widening those a little -, and the rest of them diverge quite significantly. Also, like the middle piece, the forward one is thinner than it should be. Maybe I'm too picky, i don't know. I expected these laser cut parts to be more precise. If some error was inevitable, they could, at least, have thrown it to the overdimensioned side. Easier to remove material than to add. By the way, happy easter, Richard!!
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Oh yes, I've found it! It's a very well written and well illustrated series of articles. Gary Brinker's youtube videos are also a great resource, I just wish they were higher resolution. I appreciate the tip and the wise Homer Simpson words! 🤣 I love that comparison, hopefully them birds have taught be something. Come to think about, it is probably no coincidente that I'm interested in both these fields.
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Hello good sirs, 20 year old law student from Brazil who spends his internship money on ships, that describes it. But really, I love the craftsmanship, the preciseness, the small little parts about scale modelling. My first attempt at it was actually plastic modelling, but I didn't have the proper tools, parts got broken, parts got not neat enough, I got frustrated by how my model was coming along. And well, one can't really replace complex plastic parts, I'm a make 4 version of the same thing untill it's good kinda guy, and plastic didn't give me that oppotunity. Also, plastic modelling is mostly about painting I feel like, layers and layers of weathering, complex masking, varnish, decals, more varnish, more weathering. I came to the conclusion that I like the building part of it, not so much the painting, and, let's be honest, wooden ship models are much more elegant. So, here I am, my first wooden model arrived last month, and I'm figuring it out slowly, reading a lot, watching a lot of tutorials, and planning a lot. It's build thread is up by the way, help me out: Photography is the other hobby of mine, and throrought 8 years, even a little more, I've gone to some amazing places and seen incredible creatures persuing those great clicks. In case you are interested: Arthur Goulart (@arthurmgoulart). It's South America wildlife. Just a word of caution, I'm a lazy editor and an even lazier instagrammer. Anyways, happy to be part of this amazing community. I've been following the forum for a while, it was about time I got in.
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