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  1. Here is a bit of background on A. Turesen (his name is given as both 'Anders' and 'Andreas' in the sources). Since Judichær became the first Fabriksmester around 1700, the position had been given to someone with deep understanding of the mathematics behind shipbuilding. Aften Knud Benstrup was sacked (mostly unjustified) after an issue with Christianus Sixtus, in 1736, there was no candidate to take over the Fabriksmester position. Or rather, D. Thura took over, but he was not a capable ship designer - his Fyen from 1737, though very pretty, was apparently a very poor sailing ship - and so he held the title in the original meaning: the one who ran the daily operations in the shipyard at Holmen. A Frenchman, Laurent Barbé, was hired but there were numerous collaboration issues with him, Thurah, the Construction Commission etc. He was suspended in 1747 and his ships, while very beautiful, did not perform too well. This is where Turesen and A. gerner (farther of the famous Henrik Gerner) comes into the picture. The following is a translation of a small section of 'Danske Orlogsskibe 1690-1860' During this period, work in the Construction Commission was based on a regulation that had been approved in 1741, in which the standard measurements and the prescribed armament for the various ship classes were listed. In connection with Danneskjold-Samsøe’s departure, Thura sought to exploit the situation. In the autumn of 1746 he submitted to the head of Holmen a proposal that the Construction Commission be dissolved, and that a smaller permanent committee instead be established to supervise shipbuilding and prepare construction drawings. Besides himself, the committee was to consist of Wegersløff, A. Gerner, and A. Turesen. Thura did not succeed in getting this proposal approved. The driving force in shipbuilding at Holmen after Benstrup’s departure was his apprentice, shipbuilder Andreas Turesen. He had worked his way up from shipbuilding apprentice and even became senior shipbuilder. Turesen also proved to be a capable designer and increasingly made his mark. He designed and built the 90-gun ship FRIDERICUS QUINTUS (fig. 33). Already in 1750 the Construction Commission had requested the two shipbuilders P. Brock and P. Kiønig to submit drawings for a 90-gun ship-of-the-line according to the regulations. These were submitted on 30 April of the same year, though only signed by Kiønig. In 1752 the Construction Commission then asked A. Turesen to prepare drawings for a similar ship. These were submitted to the commission on 16 October 1752, after which the commission reviewed both Kiønig’s earlier drawing and Turesen’s. In a letter of 30 October it was recommended to the head of Holmen that Turesen’s drawing be followed. Both sets of drawings were sent with the recommendation, however. Later the Admiralty sent the drawings to the King and recommended that Turesen’s plan be followed. The King agreed and approved it on 13 November 1752. Work on the ship now began, and on 14 January 1753 the Construction Commission was asked to inspect and measure the set-up frames. The ship was launched on 24 November 1753 under the name FRIDERICUS QUINTUS. During the period in question, yet another designer made his mark. This was the naval officer A. Gerner, who, in connection with the collection of four fire-ships in England in 1743, brought home the drawings of the English ship-of-the-line AUGUSTA (fig. 34), a 60-gun ship. This ship was a copy of the French man-of-war SUPERBE. AUGUSTA was built in 1737 and was considered an exceptionally good-sailing ship. A. Gerner had in 1732 been ordered abroad to study ship construction and had been a member of the Construction Commission since 1739. In May 1745 he submitted a drawing for a 50-gun ship of Kiønig’s type, which for Danish conditions was considered to be the best design. He also considered it the most difficult to construct from a shipbuilding-technical standpoint. The drawing was made as a reduction of the drawings for AUGUSTA. The ship FYEN, which became A. Gerner’s only one, was built in 1749 and was considered one of the best sailing ships the Danish-Norwegian fleet had ever had. Until as late as 1767 a total of eight warships were built according to FYEN’s drawings or as reductions of them. A. Gerner did not live to receive recognition for his successful design. He died already in 1749, apparently embittered by the harassment connected with the work on the ship’s construction. It is said that shortly before his death he extracted a promise from his two eldest sons that they would never involve themselves in shipbuilding. The younger sons, including Henrik Gerner (see later), were too young to be bound by such an oath. In 1758 Thura was dismissed as master-builder and instead received the position of commandant at the Tollbooth. Since the establishment of the Construction Commission he had not designed ships. He died only in 1788. End of excerpt. Turesen made 2 ships of the line and 5 frigates, but also constructed 6 of the ships based on A. Gerners Fyen mentioned above! So all in all, he did a lot of the actual work in the 1747-1757 period. He died in 1757 and F.M. Krabbe took over the full Fabriksmester position in 1758.
  2. Very interesting Arthur! I look forward to following you progress here! I also really like Turesens designs. He was not acting as 'fabriksmester' as Benstrup or later Krabbe, but he built many of the Ships in that interim period in the 1740's and 1750's, and they seem to have been well liked and generally lasted a long time. If you are looking for information on him, I can paraphrase what 'Danske Orlogsskibe 1690-1860' has to say? Do you have all the drawings of Wildmanden from the archive? Here is the catalog entry for it: It has a very nice set of decorations: Regarding the wales, I think you have it right. The drawing clearly shows the upper edge, just below the gun-ports. The middle frames for (almost?) all Danish ships after around 1730 does not show the thin double wales of the previous century, but rather these thicker ones, or even as this one just thicker planks that get progressively smaller further towards the keel. However it is puzzling, as the contemporary paintings often still show two thin lines for wales all the way up to Gerner's time in the 1770's! Perhaps they were just painted this way at this point in time? I will look for the model of Wilmanden next time I visit Krigsmuseet, though I am not sure exactly when that will be. Also, are you 3D modelling the ship, or are you preparing to make a wooden model as well? BR TJM
  3. Thank you so much @brunnels! The copper roof is actually super easy: any base copper paint and then Citadel Nihilakh Oxide, which is a matt pigment verdigris wash. That's it!
  4. Log entry 32 - painting the stern decorations After some colour and technique tests earlier, I have now completed what I think will be the final version of the stern and side galleries. I will show the steps of the painting process, so sorry in advance for the large number of pictures in this post! 😅 After base coating the model black, I airbrushed the red window frames and the red panels. This was done with two shades of red over a couple of passes with the airbrush: After this, I went in and painted all the black parts, taking care not to mess up the red parts - it is almost impossible to touch up on the airbrushed red without it showing! Then the yellow parts were base coated with brown - this took forever as I had to move very, very slowly: So far so good! Then comes tje most difficult job, which is to do the yellow. It takes even longer than the brown as it needs 2-3 coats. The friese and other 3D decorations are drybrushed on. The last step is highlights with beige, using drybrushing. Phew! Just missing the red flags. Here is a comparison with my colour test from a few weeks ago. And finally som images with the part on the ship (just dry fitted as I need to figure out what to do with the window glass and finish the planking before it is attached permanently). This is the best I can do painting wise I think, and I think it will look good in the end. The camera picks up all the harsh colour transitions, but it looks smoother in real life. And just a fun shot here at the end of all the different iterations I have gone through... 🫣 I am happy to have this done - it was by far the most difficult kit-bashing for this project, so having completed it, the rest of the build should be much more straight sailing, following the manual! BR TJM
  5. Probably not too much, unfortunately. Acc. to 'Den historiske modelsamling på Holmen', by P. Holck from 1939, the masts and rig suffered considerable damage in the 1795 fire. It was supposedly meticulously restored afterwards.
  6. 3 pounder - C6 monogram: 3 pund C6.stl 4 pounder - C6 monogram: 4 pund C6.stl 6 pounder - C6 monogram: 6 pund C6.stl 8 pounder - C6 monogram: 8 pund C6.stl 12 pounder - C6 monogram: 12 pund C6.stl 18 pounder - C6 monogram: 18 pund C6.stl 24 pounder - C6 monogram: 24 pund C6.stl 36 pounder - C6 monogram: 36 pund C6.stl 42 pounder - C6 monogram: 42 pund C6.stl
  7. 3 pounder - no monogram: 3 pund.stl 4 pounder - no monogram: 4 pund.stl 6 pounder - no monogram: 6 pund.stl 8 pounder - no monogram: 8 pund.stl 12 pounder - no monogram: 12 pund.stl 18 pounder - no monogram: 18 pund.stl 24 pounder - no monogram: 24 pund.stl 36 pounder - no monogram: 36 pund.stl 42 pounder - no monogram: 42 pund.stl
  8. Hi All, Greatly inspired by @thibaultron's efforts to design and share 3D printable STL files for various series and times, I thought I would do the same for the very niche area of Danish Cannons. I am researching this for my own projects, and thought I would share with everyone. I will make occasional updates when I have new designs to share. For this first post, I have found a series of cannons from the period 1720-1750. They are from a Kaddet book and the scans cam be found here: https://www.arkeliet.no/sources/kadett_fm_1700/kadettbok1700t.htm The series is one of the most complete onse I have found and includes: 3 pdr, 4 pdr, 6 pdr, 8 pdr, 12 pdr, 18 pdr, 24 pdr, 36 pdr and 42 pdr cannon designs, sometimes severel versions/lenghts of each. I have started with just one lenght of each as can be seen in the table below. Here are the drawings used: Here you can see the files, except for the 42 pounder: And then I have versions with the monogram of King Christian VI, which should be appropriate for the period (though Frederik IV and Fredrik V could also be appropriate). You can see some of these (8, 18 and 36 pounders) printed in 1/32 scale in @Beckmann's build log for Tre Kroner. The STL files are in 1:64 scale, but are of course easily re-sizable to any other scale. I will attach the STLs in the next few posts BR TJM
  9. @Arthur Goulart, as the drawings of artillery in the Danish Archive are rarely dated or directly connected to specific ships, there is unfortunately no nice way to find anything specific. So I do what you do and plow through the drawings. Have a look at F278-F360, there are quite a few artillery drawings in that range. A Norwegian site has scans of a Kadet book on Danish artillery. It was likely compiled in the 1720's-1750's: https://www.arkeliet.no/sources/kadett_fm_1700/kadettbok1700t.htm These are 'metal' canons, meaning bronze, as opposed to iron. BR TJM
  10. Impeccable work Matthias! It's really coming together and showing the full shape snd design intricacies now. All those individual, subtly different balustrade columns are so well done!
  11. I believe the wiki page just echoes the museum, but it will be very interesting to see if you have the display case text! Lex also calls it Christiania, referencing Orlogsbasen, Rigsarkivet: https://trap.lex.dk/Christiania_(1774) You may well be right here, and I agree that the drawing and the model are a match, but it is strange that current sources reference it as Christiania then! BR TJM
  12. This is the section in 'Danske Orlogsskibe 1690-1860. It agrees with your description, however, like I mentioned, I wonder why it is then labelled as Christianias figurehead at the museum!? And whether some new information has appeared since the 70's that changed the identification of the model?
  13. Hi Matthias, Thank you so much for your kind words and the very interesting comment! The figurehead is supposed to be that of Christiania, not the Printz Friderich and the model is identified as such in the museum. You will also find this on Wikipedia: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Galionsfigur_til_fregatten_Christiania_(model).JPG But I agree that it does look much like the coloured drawing of the mounting of the figurehead - I wonder if the same motif was re-used? It is a bit of a conundrum as the original plans does not show this exact motif, but rather a lion or another lady figure not holding a building. It does however seem like this figurehead model was previously identified as the one for Printz Friderich - it is mentioned as such in the 1979 book Danske Orlogsskibe 1690-1860. Perhaps it has later been re-identified as Christianias figurehead? Or perhaps the museum has it wrong! Unfortunately, my own photographs does not contain the annotation on the display case. There is another very similar figure just beside this one, could that be the Printz Friderich figurehead? What do you think? BR TJM
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