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Sjors got a reaction from Jack12477 in Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - scale 1:50 - VOC reconnaissance yacht
Hoi Martin.
First off all only English here 🙂
Not everyone can read Dutch.
No i didn’t stop.
She is on hold for the moment,same as the Victory.
A friend of mine and a builder of this forum is sick.
He lives in Norway and a few weeks ago we bring him a visit in Norway.
The builders who are here from the beginning knows him very wel.
It’s Børge…
His greatest wish was to build the USS Constitution.
He had the kit from model shipways on his workbench but can not build it.
He ask me if i want to do that for him.
So at my workbench there is the Constitution.
I have to make a build log .
That’s why the other ones are on hold.
When you take a look by Historische zeilschepen at the Dutch forum Modelbouwers.nl you can see a few Duyfkens
Sjors
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Sjors reacted to Beef Wellington in Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - scale 1:50 - VOC reconnaissance yacht
Ah-ha, been hunting high and low for you....and finally found you! This looks like a very nice kit, and a pleasant change to the usual. Looking forward to seeing more progress, looks like you're off to a great start.
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Sjors got a reaction from Alex K. in Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - scale 1:50 - VOC reconnaissance yacht
I just told you that it is a slow build.
After two tuesdays of building at the club, all the frames are done 🙂
I think I have to build more instead of watching other projects and not so much talking
Sjors
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post Forty-four
The first Band.
I am using fairly scale lengths with a 140mm maximum and around 45mm minimum lengths.
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I am not going for a set sequence of repeat patterns, but I am giving mind to the positions of butts on adjacent strakes.
For deck planking I will take a more structured approach.
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I plank side and side about, and Ca is used throughout, with a pot of Acetone handy for wiping excess from plank faces as I go along.
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The required shape for the bow timbers is transferred to the planks, which are dampened, tapered, edge bent, bevelled, and generally fettled to fit.
I found this necessary from around Bulkhead five to the stem.
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One of the advantages of the Indy hull is that apart from the bow area there are long sections of using full width planks which proceeds quite quickly.
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Looking a bit rough at this stage, but I now need to re-mark the hull for the next band of planking.
Onwards….
B.E.
01/07/2023
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Sjors reacted to Kevin in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023
good evening everyone
Day 122-3 still coppering
im sure most of you would have completed both sides by now, i have lots going on, in RL but daily progress is being made
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Sjors reacted to Kevin in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023
well one side is
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Sjors got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in HMS Sovereign of the Seas by Sjors - DeAgostini - 1:84
paint job done....
I think building time 10000 hours and paint time 100000 hours
The false canons are in place so she got her teeth.
All the other canons still has to go on the decks.
Also paint and attach the decorations for the bow part.
Sjors
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Sjors got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in HMS Sovereign of the Seas by Sjors - DeAgostini - 1:84
I put my ear back to my head and can hear to much
I'm waiting for my new false keel for the Santíssima Trinidad.
In the mean while I'll be preparing things for painting.
For the SotS of course.
So.....see picture.
Sjors
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Sjors got a reaction from DanielD in HMS Sovereign of the Seas by Sjors - DeAgostini - 1:84
paint job done....
I think building time 10000 hours and paint time 100000 hours
The false canons are in place so she got her teeth.
All the other canons still has to go on the decks.
Also paint and attach the decorations for the bow part.
Sjors
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post Forty-two
A bit of a set back
What I feared may happen with a hull this size has happened.
Manoeuvring to check the lining off resulted in the hull toppling off its support with the stern crashing against the wall.
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The stern frame bracing has buckled, and one of the mdf stern frames split.
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The Upper stern pattern above the gallery has been split.
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I’m bloody annoyed with myself letting this happen, but pva and clamps should sort the issue.
Not a good start to the day.☹️
B.E.
16/06/2023
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post Forty-three
The Preparation
I have (26) 5mm planks at midships which are marked off on the hull using a tick strip.
I intend to work a first band of six strakes below the existing planking, and I’m looking to have the plank ends at the stem not less than 3mm in width.
With this in mind, I apply the lining tape.
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The first application of the tape, now the tweaking begins.
In these shots the upper tape marks the line of the first section.
I am aiming to get a smooth sweep up to the stem using edge bent and tapered strips only. I hope to avoid the need for spiling except perhaps when I reach the under belly of the hull.
The trouble with lining off is deciding when it is at its optimum line.
This process is more art than arithmetic and I find myself in an agony of indecision wondering whether I have reached that point.
Using strip wood there is inevitably error creep strake upon strake, so I will fit the first section and then recalculate.
The following photos show the point where I think I am getting close to an acceptable run.
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I think it needs a slight tweak as indicated.
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This looks better to my eye.
I can now proceed to mark off the strake widths at each bulkhead point and begin planking.
B.E.
27/06/2023.
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Sjors reacted to Kevin in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023
good evening everyone
day 118-3
thank you for the comments and likes
the copper application is going ok, i wasnt impressed at the start, but then again, i wasnt going to copper at all, until i made the sanding error, oh hum
any way the jig im using to cut the tiles is version 3 and for me works ok, having the old metal blade at the base, stops the tape being pushed into the cut, so each one is fairly clean
i think i will have about 15 full rows to place, and the any infills at the water line
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Sjors reacted to Kevin in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023
good evening everyone
thank you for comments and likes
day 113-2
upper deck work is nearly complete, so its time to move to coppering, i used two strips of 6mm on the keel, with allowed me to turn it over, so hopefully avoid any gaps
mrs kevin is allowed to help
no cheeks on the port side, no its not a mod, they fell off
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Sjors reacted to Kevin in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023
good evening everyone
day 112-2
in the past week the progress on indy slowed down a bit, but the big garden work is coming to an end, just two ton of gravel to move (well 1800 KG)
the planking is nearly complete, still more tidying, sanding filling and varnish required, but it looks quite tidy now, the poop and some of the gratings were placed for the photo
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post Forty-one
Garboard Planks
The two strakes below the wale are completed before I move onto the Garboard.
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These were fitted as individual planks, and attached using ca.
According to the Construction and Fitting of the English Man of War (Peter Goodwin) the width of the Garboard Strake is 2/3 the moulded depth of the keel which would be 6.5mm at scale.
At midships the depth from drop plank strake to keel is 141mm
On paper this represents 28.2 number of 5mm planks.
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I have opted to round up to 7mm wide strips for the Garboard planks which I think better shows the difference to the usual hull planking.
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I next added the strake above the Garboard.
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At last, I can now move onto prepare for the remainder of the hull planking.
B.E.
15/06/2023
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post Forty
Drop planks at the Bow.
These are a feature of ships of the period and generally appear immediately below the wale.
They are a nice feature on a model, and installing a drop plank should help prevent overcrowding of the strakes at the bow as planking proceeds.
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Where it meets the stem I have tapered to 4mm, which is 1mm less than the full single plank width.
The taper was determined in the usual way using a single 5mm plank which was then use as a template on a 10mm plank.
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The body of the plank must be broad enough at the aft end to take account of a tapered plank that butts against it and runs beneath the wale.
The tail of the Drop plank also must run to meet a full width plank of 5mm, following on and running towards the stern.
Together they form the first two strakes beneath the wale.
I couldn’t find any specifics about the proportions of drop planks between the body and the tail, so this is my best guestimate.
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These are the dimensions I used.
The drop plank width is 4mm at the stem, 8.5mm at the aft end of the body, which is 55mm long, and with an overall length of 120mm.
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B.E.
14/06/2023
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post Thirty-Nine
Completion of the Wales.
The Port side planks were fitted without issue; the plank jig allowed for quick reproduction, and using ca, fitting was instant.
I dampen the planks before applying the ca - it aids rapid grab.
With both sides completed the hull is again inverted for finishing.
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The tricky part is the stern counter where the aft end of the wale is shaped for the round of the hull, and to follow the curve of the counter.
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It is important that there is a smooth transition between the lower edge of the wale and the plank below the wale that runs into the lower counter. All following planks of the second layer will follow this line.
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I think there will be sufficient plank line definition to give a subtle impression of the Top and Butt once the wale is painted.
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I have moved quite a way from the oob sequence.
For me the result is worth it, and by fitting the wale before the lower second planking I have the opportunity to work a Drop plank below the wale.
Onwards....
B.E.
12/06/2023
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Sjors got a reaction from etubino in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64
On the starboard side the gun ports are cut out and placed the sills and painted them.
Now I can go to the port side.......
The same process is going on then.
After that I can start the stern and quarter gallery's and second planking....
The weather is great so I can sit outside and do the drilling ......
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post Thirty-eight
Main Wales
With a supply of planks cut, application can begin.
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I start at the bow with a full-length plank, touch end to the stem. The planks will continue in this sequence to the stern.
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Below this a shorter plank starts at the touch and runs to the stem.
The total depth of these two planks must be 8mm.
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I work both strakes sequentially as I go along, making minor tweaks as necessary.
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For the lower set of strakes I begin with the touch end starting midway along the foremost plank above it, to create a shift in the butts.
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This second set also starts with the straight edge upwards and continues in the same manner.
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The final plank of the lower strake is shaped to follow the curve of the hull and will be finally fettled as the wale is shaped to follow the transom line.
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Two days work and the Starboard side wale is completed. A lot less fiddly than Hook and Butt but still gives a more authentic look than straight plank Wales.
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The overall depth of the wale is 16mm around 3’ 4”.
This is deeper that the kit wale by 1mm but is still slightly less that the depth given by Goodwin for a thirty-eight-gun frigate of 3’ 6.”
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The wales will be cleaned up after the Port side have been fitted.
B.E.
10/06/2023
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post Thirty-seven
Onto the Wales - The approach.
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A master plank was cut from some 6mm x 3mm Boxwood sheet. This will be used as a template to cut the planks.
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The planks are of a scale 120mm in length.
The touch 30mm in from the end. (¼ of plank length)
The touch depth is 2/3 the depth of the strake (8mm) = 5.33mm.
The butts are ½ the depth of the touch =2.66mm.
To make the measurements easier I used a touch of 5.5mm and a butt of 2.5mm, easier to see.
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A simple jig was made to hold the planks for marking and cutting.
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I used 6mm x 1mm strip to form the planks.
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The trick is to ensure that all the joints will meet cleanly.
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Once the top wale strake is in place things will be easier, but the fit will be tested before gluing into place.
I now need to cut around sixty planks – what joy!
B.E.
08/06/2023
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Thank you, Nils, and Kevin, and for the ‘likes’.
Post Thirty- six
The Black Strake
My plan is to fit the wales, followed by a drop plank, followed by the Garboard plank, followed by lining off and planking the remainder of the hull.
If only it was as simple as those few words.
The first task is to fit the Black strake which will fix the line of the wales.
For this I am using 0.8mm x 4mm Pear.
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The kit indicates use of 1mm pear, but I used 0.8mm as I think it better reflects the subtle difference in thickness between the wales and topside planking.
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I used Vallejo black to colour the strake before fitting but may tone it down using Black/grey, depending on the overall effect.
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Masking tape was used to mark the upper line, and Ca was used to apply the strakes.
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Onto the wales and a somewhat trickier operation.
B.E.
07/06/2023
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Sjors reacted to Kevin in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023
good evening everyone
Thank you for comments and likes
day 100-2
well the after cabin is nearly to be buttoned up, the painting of pellow is pants i know but it helps with the sense of scale, yes he has wellie boots and not shoes but he is looking at the charts for dryer lands to keep his feet dry
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Sjors reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post Thirty-five
Port Lining continues.
I am using 0.6mm Boxwood (10mm wide) to line the remaining gun-deck ports.
If nothing else it will provide a smoother finish than sanding the mdf /lime/pear/ sandwich which make up the bulwark.
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The bottom layer goes in quickly using the kit part as a template, and simply requires trimming on the inboard side.
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The kit part 549 was used as template for the more complex side pieces. This was simply transferred to the Boxwood strip and cut to suit.
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The ports were re-taped for painting.
I think I should buy shares in Tamiya tape, I use so much.
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The whole process went more quickly than I had initially thought, four days to line the ports and apply a couple of coats of paint.
A few ports will require a little more attention, but that is something I will return to, as is attending to the inner bulwarks.
Onwards to sorting out the wales.
B.E.
06/06/2023
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Sjors reacted to Kevin in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023
good morning everyone
thank you for comments and likes
day 95-2 test fitting, cabin and 1/4 galleries
after completing the knees the deck went down without any issues at all, the original bulkhead spacers did their job in ensuring everything stayed in place, i decided to repaint the deck beams in red all over rather than keeping the tops naked
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not much to say about this, the test fitting is just a slight trimming the ensure the cabin bulkheads fit, the paint in the cabin is AK Air AK11817 RLM65 (1938) and AK11002 off-white, i have kept the window PE without paint
the rudder post box, i decided to do in white, and run a ink pen around the compass markings
1/4 galleries,
i thought this would cause me some agro, but so far without any issues, hopefully thsi will all come together over this weekend
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Sjors reacted to Kevin in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023
good evening everyone
thank you for comments and likes
day 90-2
a bit of progress since my last update
we now have a full gundeck, cannon allowance
hatches, with cannon balls are made up and fitted
all the deck beams are in
i may have a couple of beam supports to place into position
although these will never be seen, i am at present putting in hanging and lodging knees,