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Here are some more pictures as I am slowly catching up to where I am.

Thank you Gary for your pictures and for the explanation of how you did it.

Thanks Grant and Amfibius for your appreciation and for following my build.

Konstantin, I've looked in Rees'e Naval Architecture where he shows several plans of ships at around 1800 (one is a 74 guns) and none has that small rise platform at  the beakhead.  Couldn't find anything on Longridge's "The Anatomy of Nelson's Ship", nor in Goodwin's "English Man of War".

It looks like is not all that common practice to have that but for some reason it was done on some ships. Probably none is wrong.

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Alexandru

Konstantin,

The upper deck probably does go, as Mc Kay shows it in the first picture above, all the way forward but what is probably missing is the small beakhead deck 2 or so feet above it as it is shown in Buglers plans (last two pictures). This will make it consistent with what the ship looks today.

Was it always like that? I don't know.

Was that common practice to have a deck 2 feet above the upper deck which made for a lost space between them? I am not so sure, as wasting space was not common practice on these ships. They always found something to store even in the smallest place.

Maybe somebody else on this forum has some additional information about that. I will check to see in other books/plans I have at home of English built ships of that time to see if this arrangement does exists in other ships.

Alexandru

Good afternoon !

I ask I am sorry my English - I use automatic translator.

I talk on behalf of members of forum http://serikoff.ucoz.ru/    

We build the models of HMS Victory.

Studying "Anatomy of The Ships -  HMS Victory" of John McCay and modern photos of ship, we paid attention to such fact.

Forehand of upper deck ahead beakhead bulkhead on a modern ship lifted on 1-1,5 foot by comparison to pictures from McCay and is at one level with the grate of latrine(grating).Before grating stood higher than nasal part of upper deck.

That do you think on this occasion ?

Hi Fortres,

I am not sure I fully understand your question...

But I think you are asking about the height of the deck at the beakhead level which in McKay's plans is at the same height as the upper deck as is shown in first picture.

From the pictures I took several years ago, when I visited Victory in Portsmouth (pictures 2, 3 and 4 below), one can clearly see there is a difference in level between the upper deck under the fore castle and the outside deck. Same difference can be seen in A. R. Bugler book plans - pictures 5 and 6 below.

Based on that I would say there is an error in McKay's plans concerning this particular part of the ship. I am not yet there in my build but I will have that difference in height between the upper deck and beakhead deck.

Hope this helps you.

Alexandru

Hold and orlop deck framing is done.

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More on hold and orlop deck framing.

More on the grand magazine

Orlop deck framing and the grand magazine.

Thanks guys.

Next batch: riders, crutches and orlop deck beams.

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Planking above the main wale

Lower hull varnished

Done with the copper platting to...

Well, planking is done - start the coppering. But first the electrical plug...

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More planking...

Hull planking and treenailig.

Main wale

Next on the part that will be left open several ribands were installed - glued and nailed.

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