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Eddie reacted to wyz in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
At 1:32 scale you should be able to build an enormous amount of detail into the model.
Tom
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Eddie reacted to AnobiumPunctatum in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Thanks Ed and druxey.
I have to look, how to do this part. The deadwood and transoms will be much more complicated at my sloop than expected.
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Eddie reacted to druxey in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
The transoms are scored on to the sternpost and inner post. The knee is then scored on the inner faces of the transoms once they have been faired.
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Eddie reacted to AnobiumPunctatum in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Thanks, I will draw the situation and show it.
If I understand everything right I have to change the build sequence. I must install the transoms first; than I can install the keelson knee / sternson followed by the cant frames.
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Eddie reacted to druxey in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
That's right, Christian. That is the sequence.
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Eddie reacted to AnobiumPunctatum in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
It took a longer time to finish the construction of the deadwood.
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Eddie reacted to AnobiumPunctatum in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Thanks for the Likes and nice comments
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Eddie reacted to AnobiumPunctatum in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
The last part of the backbone is the Stern, consisting of the Inner Post and the Stern Post. I build a small jig to adapt the Stem to the Deadwood:
For fixing the Stern on the Deadwood I use small brass pins. At the keel I used a simplified tenon joint:
Next I milled the scores for the transoms and the rudder hinges:
The last picture shows the nearly finished port side of the arrangement. I lost a little the sharp edge of the rabbet, but don't think that I can do it better. So I will live with it. After finishing the starbordside and glueing the complete arrangement together, I will final sand the everything.
The two parts of the stern are real tricky and so I am very happy if I can fnish this part. Greg has spllitted his stern post in two part. If I have to do this part another time, I think I will follow this way. The rabbet at the transoms is than a littlebit simplified, but I think his way makes life much simpler.
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Eddie reacted to druxey in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
It's good to see progress on your model again, Christian. It looks very nice indeed.
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Eddie reacted to dvm27 in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Well done, Christian. Doing this in two parts certainly helps keep the rabbet crisp but you did a very nice job..
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Thanks, slow going and making lots of mistakes but suppose that is the best way to learn
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Hi
No worries about asking any questions. To manage your expectations I am pretty bad at building boats but will try to share what limited knowledge - skills I have. The Mamoli kit is pretty much a re-boxing of a previous kit la Glorie. My very basic research shows that there was a 32 gun frigate captured by the British in 1795 and named HMS Glorie. Not sure how accurate the actual kit is as the Glorie but the HMS Surprise was a different design and while I am not a purist I would like to get close to the look of the ship that was the inspiration for the book.
To assist with this I am using the book The Frigate Surprise by Brian Lavery and Geoff Hunt. This has some pages of drawings by Karl Heinz Marquardt on what the Surprise would approximately looked like. Navis Factorum has an excellent log in the scratch build section and the other HMS Surprise models out there look more like the drawings in the book. My hatches are a mixture of looking at the book and what I could get away with using the Mamoli model as a base. I am adding hatch covers rather than stairs as when I read the books for some reason I had visions of sliding hatches and it allows me to have these open without having to cut too much into the frames to carve out a creditable false deck.
I hope this is of some use.
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Hi captain71,
Welcome aboard. Not 100% sure I got the various woods right as pretty much abandoned there colour chart and guessed on previous experience so fingers crossed I got it right. Saw your log and will follow with interest. Have been taking a bit of a break as in NZ for Christmas but when I get back to England will start working on the Surprise again and hopefully we can bounce off each other's experiences. Look forward to seeing some posted pictures.
Waitoa
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Hi
Thought I would post a small update on where I am at. I am not very tidy when I do my first planking and always try to get better. I have found though with sand paper and filler you can usually get a good base for the second and final planking. I never spend enough time on the preparation of the frames so may have to correct one a bit as the planks dip a bit on the unplanned side.
Next time really keen to try a rabbet? Think that will help with keeping it tidy. Still addicted to using pins but again want to move away from this on my next build. Using a method I got off this forum where you lay the planks on there natural run and then shape the others to fill in the spaces. I know it is not the 'correct' method but works for me.
I hope this is some help.
Regards
Waitoa
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Hi
Having to slow up a bit on the build as work and life is getting more hectic. I have finished the basic hatches for the first false deck. The ladders and sliding hatches will be attached once I have carried out the first planking. I went for sliding hatches instead of the more open stairs shown in the plans by Lavery and Hunt as I had seen this arrangement in the A/L version.
This decision was primarily driven by not wanting to have to remove too much of the bulkhead to create a visible false deck. This would have been relatively large to cover the space that would have been exposed to view. If this had been done I would have had to reinforce the framing a lot to prevent warping and twisting. As I progress with this build I am guessing could become an issue and can see a slight twist that I will have to correct when I do the first planking.
So on to the first planking which is something I always manage to get wrong so I had better stock up on wood putty and to spare any embarrassment will only post another entry when it is done and my nerves have settled down.
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Hi
Finally finished the first false deck planking. Big thanks to Ulises Victoria who posted a guide on the way to get the different patterns. I did lose the order a few times but very little will be seen so thinking of this as a training run. One day I will get the courage to do trenails but think this scale is a bit too small. I used Danish oil to seal based on advice from this forum and really happy with the result.
In the top deck I may try to improve my planking by having them run into a margin plank (not sure if that is the right term). Did not do it this time around as you can see it is pretty rough at the edges. Carved away the false deck that was over hanging so I could get a nice smooth line on which to lay the outer planking. Started already on the hatches as you can see as need to do some detail things done to motivate me for the first planking which usually causes me the most challenge.
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Hi Bindy
Sixth one along from the bow. The curve flares out as it gets to the first false deck and just looks a bit weird. I think I may have also been staring at it a bit too long so may do the hatches on this deck before attempting the planking. Looking forward to seeing how you get on and good luck with your build.
Waitoa
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Hi Harvey
Thanks for your comments, you are doing well to remember half of the time. I think I have a gold fish memory now what was I commenting on .......
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Hi Bindy
Thanks for the kind words. I really enjoy the hobby but tend to get demotivated when I hit a set back so using this log as a way to spur me on. Have trimmed back the over hang, looks a bit rough and needs a good sand. On yours does bulkhead 6 look a bit too wide? Mine seems a bit to prominent so sanding back a bit so the planks flow ok.
Hi Ross
Thanks for the feedback. I like the Master cutter as I am really bad at cutting anything straight. It is good for deck planks but for thicker planks such as those for the first planking can see that you really need a bit of force.
Waitoa
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Hi
Thought it was time for another update. While the other logs inspire us to push our skills and techniques further I am guessing mine may be more along the lines of what to avoid. Near completion of the first false deck and as the photo below shows that there is a significant overhang.
I first thought I was paying for my bash it with a hammer approach but the overhang is pretty even on each side. I will trim it back but as it is a Mamoli model the gun ports are metal frames that slot into the false deck through a series of notches and most of these will be lost.
I have attached a photo to show how these are meant to work but when I get to this stage I think I will try to do something different as it looks like these would stand proud to the outer planking and spoil the whole look. Any suggested alternatives would be greatly received.
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Eddie reacted to Waitoa in HMS Surprise by Waitoa - Mamoli - Scale 1:75
Think I have all of them but counting has never been my strong point so better get my wife to check
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