Old Collingwood

And an old pic of the pilot boat i built for my old vic kit, i still have this boat but had to leave my quarter completed vic kit.

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Thanks hamilton, it will certainly be an interesting build, and hopefully my build experience both plastic and wood will come in useful.

On with my build,  after offering up forecastle b-head num 1, i soon discovered the slots on both the keel and b-heads where tight, so i opened both up slightly after checking the centre point of the slots, then  a nice join was made, i then fitted brace  23s and offered up both number 24s, but as i did with my vic build i decided to fan out these two supports at 45deg angles, first i sanded the edges of both to meet at a point then glued both in place.

I did this because i found it makes for a smoother more natural curve for the hull planking.

Anyway heres the pics.....

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Does the kit come with extra materials or are they exact? just incase i decide to lengthen the forecastle area and plank it, this is what i would need to do to build the kit as HMS Lyme, also i would need to plank over the rear step upto the poop area as this would be acsessed via extarnal steps again if i build HMS Lyme.

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Hi Collingwod:

 

Thanks for clarifying

hamilton

Thats ok,  i will keep a carefull eye on your build as it will help me no end with mine.

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Hi dragzz,  jeff and  hamilton,

Thank you for the replies,  Im fairly well up there with farring i had to do this quite considerably with my vic build, also adding shaped timbers from formed wood strips(coffee stirers)  and constant-Constant-COnstant sanding the bulk heads with different strengths of sanding material to get a good smooth planking shape, i had to go almost completely away from the de-agostini build instructs, as they where also not 100% acurate, mind you i started from the bottom up from the keel and even started to add some lower floors like the hold etc.

This i will try to do with this kit, and after scouring the net for info on the 1720  20-24 gun man-of-war(frigate), it is possible with some mods to build any of the four mentioned, Lyme is perhaps the most interesting as she shows to have a slightly lengthened forecastle area and poop with the addition of a (poss 6pdr cannon) on the top of the poop deck, and and additional one rearward and on the same deck as the our cutouts.

So lots of possibilities

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Well it arrived today in a nice tidy box well packaged and presented, i checked over all the contents and decide my build strategy,  i first checked the keel for squareness and found that it was not sitting totally flat when on its side, so i gently flatened it aided by abit of friction/heat, next was to design/build a building frame so it was to the shed i ventured....i found a piece of 2"x1" soft wood, after cutting to length and shaping the ends, i fitted four pieces of balsa that where placed against the keel for aligning, then after gluing in place with some strong glue.

Here is my first pic showing the above, but as i dont have a close up or wide lens just 55mm minimum on my dslr, i may struggle to show close/fine details....

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Thanks Ron! Much appreciate - I've been admiring your work on the Oneida!

 

Hi Collingwood - perhaps this could work, but I think you might encounter problems since the Corel keel does not really correspond to the plans you've posted above - it is simply too short. You might get away with it with a different quarter gallery arrangement than the one depicted in the images you've posted - Goodwin depicts one with a single window that could accommodate a tenth gunport given Corel's design.

 

I'm curious about the second image - the one marked "Blandford, Lynx & Scarborough". It's clearly taken from Goodwin's Anatomy of the Ship HMS Blandford - one of the primary sources I've been using. But I'm curious about the cyrillic characters in the bottom left....is this an image you found online? Or a scanning of a hard copy plan sheet that you have?

hamilton

 

 

Hi hamilton,  sorry for the delay internet probs,  that plan i showed of the three ships "Blandford, Lynx & Scarborough"  was from a google serch of HMS Blandford, i think possibly with a little bit of - modifying here modifying there, and possibly with abit of work around the rudder post/keel and rear quarters, the eleventh port might just fit in, even if quite close to the window, or perhaps moving each gun port a few mm  closer to the b/heads and loosing the difference within the gun deck length,  im happy to experiment with all this, as i dont mind doing abit of kit bashing/scratch building, if you saw my De-Ag Victory on here i was building the year before last,  you would see my efforts with different ideas.

 

 

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Heres a pic i found that shows the eleventh port in the cabin area...

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What i will do is try to space the 11th port quite close to the side cabin window assembly, as this looks like how they have been laid out, like in the victory where nelson had one in his quarters that was lashed against the side when not in use, and when in action his best and most trusted gunnery men would fire from it.

It looks like there might just be enough room just after bulhead 12, possibly not quite centred between bulkheads as with the others, but a slight nudge towards bul 12 might not look to bad, even if not open or cut out it could be a dummy port just engraved with hinge assembly.

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Thank you for that hamilton,  i have been saving some diagrams and pictures of greyhound and her sisters, and one or two first obvious things i can see, firstly i noticed that the bulwak on the real ship steps down further back towards the mizen mast close to bulkhead no 10, and the mention of there being 11 gun ports on the real ship, i think the missing number 11 port is in the rear captains cabin, just as in many fighting vessels. 

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Hi hamilton,

some realy great work you are doing there, i have ordered mine and await delivery in a few days, i cant wait to get back into period ship buliding again since my last build of the de-ag part build Victory that got asfar as the hull palnking stage and some extra detailing i was putting inside.

Your build is an inspiration, as is most other members, and i follow with great interest.

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