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I'm searching any link to understand better how the served shrouds are seized around the masts. Can you help anyway? Thanks
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Hi Ray your work is excellent! May I ask you how do you seize the shrouds around the lower mast? Using half knots or something like that, and for how many turns? Thank you. Stergios
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I had served (before your last posts) enough 1mm rope to create served burton pendants for the mizzen mast of the Snake. My plan was to make the serving of a desired length of rope in advance and turn/create the loops of the pendants at a later step, like Ray. I don't know yet what's the easiest way for the loops.
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Jason, hi again. Have you any pics to attach to enable me to understand those steps better (especially about the false splice, do you use any custom made jig to serve only the line to make the initial loop? Sorry for disturbing again your time!
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How do you stabilize and keep attached the loop on the device to continue the serving from the neck as far as you need?
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Jason, you would like to say the "seizing" line instead of the "serving" line, I suppose....
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Basically I need to improve this simple knot seizing but I'm searching the technique for a better and smooth appearance of the seizing...
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Hi Brian and thanks for your comment and the link provided. I've used No 10 cotton line just to help myshelf to handle better the seizing procedure and especially to see only how the served rope without damage fits to a zip seizing of 1,5mm diameter (for 1mm served ropes), independently of the size of the seizing rope. To my knowledge, the size of the rope for seizing is always 0,25mm. Cheers. Stergios
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That;s a picture showing the final result of a zip seizing of 7 turns of the #10 cotton line, after the trimming of the free edge of the rope. This seizing seems to me a little oversized and the main rope not so centralized to the seizing.... Any comments and advices, as always are appreciated mates. Thanks.
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Today, I've found time for practise on seizing the served ropes. I generally like the style of the zip seizing, so my basic concern was to see whether was possible the served rope pass through the zip seizing ("hangman knot") without any damage of the serving line... I made my 1st zip seizing turning 5 times the #10 cotton line around a 1,5 mm wire. This is the preliminary result This is another try turning 7 times the #10 cotton line... Alternatively I have tried this seizing with 2-3 simple knots around the served rope, but I'm not happy with the result
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I mean about that kind of seizing. It seelms to me very risky, especially using served rope to do that zip seizing, don't you think?
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Hello to everybody. How do you deal with the seizing of the shrouds on masts? Thank you.
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...and Mort & Brian of course. Thanks mates!!
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Again special thanks to Ray, Alexey and Jim. Cheers
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Here is my 1st attempt using the cotton line No 10 A photo shot showing the three different serving lines (cotton 10 on the right, polyester in the middle and cotton 40 on the left) from a distance A close up view of the cotton 10 A close up view of the 100% polyester line and the close up view of the cotton 40... For the mo I really don't know which one is the best to use as my serving line.... That's for today Thanks again. Cheers
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Well it's time to present you my progress according to Jim's steps and recommendations. First of all the serving lines I've tested are 1) regular sewing cotton line No 10, 2) a 100% polyester line and 3) regular sewing cotton, from local stores. I've used a simple white [for contrast] main rope to serve The first passing of the serving line and the following second passing of the needle at 90 degrees compared to the 1st one Here is the serving line after the 2nd passing and a simple knot is ready to follow The knot is then tightened and the free adge of the serving line trimmed with a spot of undiluted pva ...which is slightly pressed against the knot, before the starting of the serving ... to be continued.....
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Costa se efxaristo to grigora einai poli sxetiko.... Ena apo ta pleonektimata ton mi Ellinon einai oti efkola kai aploxera sou metadisoun ti gnosi kai tis simvoules tous. Kali sinexeia!
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Thank you again Jim! I'm "practising" myshelf all the time this Saturday. I'm about to show you my progress following Jim's recommendation to serving. Photos to follow later.
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Jim, do you use any pva glue or something to make the serving more secure around the main rope? Thank you.
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I've concluded to buy new ropes (to make the serving on) from local sewing stores. I can find better material than those of the kit or those from the cornwall model boats. All I need is to have the same diameter, as the plan indicates.
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Jim thank you again Now, I think I've understood clearly. In case of need I'll recall!
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Brian, Mort and Jim thank you so much mates for the continuous support and your time to typing!
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Hi Brian and thank you for stopping by I have well understood the basic options for the serving line. My concern for the moment is the main (served, larger) rope and whether should I use the original from the kit or regular sewing rope from the stores... Cheers. Stergios
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