mdkboggle Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share #31 Posted May 11, 2015 George,Daniel and Bob and to all that have liked the post's i have made i say thanks guys. Daniel You sure know how to get me at it don't you lol Here we go The entrance port I have checked both McKay and McGowan and i did a re scale from McKay's plan drawings that are 1/192 and it seems the port is the correct size provided i got my math right. The port is 9 mm wide on the model and 4 to 5 mm on the plan depending on if you include the width of the printed lines and is as far as i can tell near as damn it right. But,,,, The Entrance Port has changed over the years and i think this is a important thing to note. It seems that at one time or another there was a external frame added that was not there before. On some pic's you can see the yellow of the ship inside the canopy walls (at left side pic 1) but later there was a frame added (see pics 2/3) I think i may add this frame to aid in the tidy up of my Entrance Port and to add just a little more detail and eye candy if nothing else. Did it look like this in 1805? Well i would bet my Dog it did not I would even say that in 1805 the ship did not have a entrance port and if it did it would not have been like we see today but this can be said for almost everything you now look at regarding Victory. I would like someone to correct or confirm my port measurements if possible just to make sure i am at least in the ball park with my sizes,that would be cool. Thanks Daniel for pointing this out to me sir Now,,,,what do you think regarding the Prince of Wales Feather's? should i leave them alone or scratch build a Crown or a shield or other that MAY have been there,high up on the stern? 765-F by Tim Doman, on Flickr 2008_07_22_alex_cap_g by Tim Doman, on Flickr 2008_08_20_victory_donal_oneill_d by Tim Doman, on Flickr Temp test fit of canopy and size of doorway. by Tim Doman, on Flickr please note. Pics are for reference only and will be removed if needed. Anyway that's it for now,i am going back to start some copper tiles on the hull,,,,,or the dog if it gets in the way Back soon and thanks again all for looking. Tim foxy and dafi 2 Quote HMS Victory by mdkboggle - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted May 11, 2015 Share #32 Posted May 11, 2015 Hi Tim, i think Daniel might be right. Looking at the photo's of the actual ship the entrance port does look wider than the one on the model. Another reference is in the actual ship photo's the entrance looks almost if not the same width as a gun port. Something for you to ponder over i think mdkboggle 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted May 11, 2015 Share #33 Posted May 11, 2015 Nice work Tim. I to think the entrance is the same width as the gun ports. AS for the removal and replacement, that is up to you Tim me lad. Frank mdkboggle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdkboggle Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share #34 Posted May 13, 2015 Hi all I have started to copper plate the hull but not as the instructions tell me to I have marked the waterline and then run masking tape along the line so it really stand out,bad eyes you see lol. I then set out 2 lines of tiles from the waterline in the standard brick fashion and then marked the vertical joint lines down to the keel. A spare plank was set 13 tile lines down to take up the natural bend of the hull,at the point where the plank bent round to meet the waterline at the bow and the stern.I spot glued this plank in place and used a pin at each end to secure it in place. I then tiled up and back toward the stern from this line toward the waterline. I have now painted some copper paint on the lower keel and another line of tiles will now start from the keel working up toward the line of tiles you can see set out along the plank.. I have never done this job before and i am following a build that comes from the book "Period Ship Handbook" Is it going to look ok or will i end up in trouble,,,well i dont know yet but i will find out the hard way lol. More to come on this as i get more done. .Copper plating the hull by Tim Doman, on Flickr Copper plating the hull by Tim Doman, on Flickr Copper plating the hull by Tim Doman, on Flickr Copper plating the hull by Tim Doman, on Flickr Ok thats it for now but a big thank you to all you guys for your input and for looking. P.S I am still looking into any entrance port issues and i will come back to this later in the build as if there is any alterations to be made,they can be done later when fitting the canopy and steps. Again,thanks all for looking. Tim mort stoll, foxy and dafi 3 Quote HMS Victory by mdkboggle - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted May 13, 2015 Share #35 Posted May 13, 2015 Looks good for a first attemp at coppering (are you going to grout it) foxy and mdkboggle 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted May 13, 2015 Share #36 Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) Nice work Tim. Bob. You know grout attracts fungus. Frank Edited May 13, 2015 by foxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdkboggle Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share #37 Posted May 14, 2015 Bob Yea i am going to grout it with Blu Tack so i get no fungus problems like frank has said lol. Ok tiles so far This is the state of the tiling along the waterline so far. I may or may not add a finish strip but i will wait until both sides of the ship are completely tiled before i make my mind up. Anyway,so far i have this,,,, Tiling the waterline with no batten to hide edges. by Tim Doman, on Flickr Tiling the waterline with no batten to hide edges. by Tim Doman, on Flickr DSC_0405 by Tim Doman, on Flickr DSC_0406 by Tim Doman, on Flickr As usual the waterline will need a tidy up but so far it looks a hell of a lot better than i thought it would for a first timer effort. ok thanks for looking and back soon guys. Tim GrandpaPhil, foxy, dragzz and 1 other 4 Quote HMS Victory by mdkboggle - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragzz Posted May 14, 2015 Share #38 Posted May 14, 2015 looking vary nice so far keep up the great work Quote this is my dry docks side build hms victory/corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/4698-hms-victroy-by-dragzz-corel-scale-198/ side build waiting on parts /king of the mississippi/ al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3490-king-of-the-mississippi-by-dragzz-al-scale180/?hl=%20king%20%20the%20%20mississipp current build mare nostrum al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8125-mare-nostrum-by-artesania-latina-scale-135-by-dragzz-small/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted May 14, 2015 Share #39 Posted May 14, 2015 Great job Tim, the more you did the better it got Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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