Deadeye straps

[stelios]

Dear all,

 

Silver soldering has become one of my favorite activities in ship modeling and as it happens this period to be in the mast and rigging installation phase, I took pictures to log the process.

 

In this section I see there are various ineresting and informative topics, yet I took the liberty to contribute my own version, always seeking your critique.

 

Step one: coil the brass wire around a brass rod to form a spyral. In my case I used a screwdriver as its diameter was the ideal for the specific deadeyes. The selection was done by trial and error.

 

 

Step two: remove spyral from the rod and cut all way with cutting pliers. By doing so, we create small rings. The picture below was not really necessary, but anyway, here it is...

 

 

Step three: with needle file trim the joining surfaces of the rings and bring them into contact. In the picture below the three rings on the right we left on purpose unfiled and not shaped, in order to highlight the difference with the counterparts on the left.

 

 

Step four: silver solder them. in the picture below this is how they look immediately after, without any further treatament.

 

 

Step five: with the aid of needle files and a rotary brush, they change completely look.

 

 

Step six: With the aid of  a circlip pliers  squeeze the ring in order to  take an oval shape wide enough to accomodate (at a later stage) the deadeye.  Next, still holding the oval shaped ring with the circlip pliers, squeeze it further to take the desired shape below.  Insert the deadeye, align the holes and sueeze it to its final shape.

(I know, more pictures would be appreciated, but at this stage you need a partner, not available unfortunately).

The final step is to blacken the brass. I use a product containing selenious acid. It is used to blacken engravings on brass.

 

 

Stelios

 

[Dida]

Nice tutorial! What do you use to warm up the ring?

[JPett]

Ahoy Stelios

 

Thanks for posting, I too am looking forward to this part in my build. Your work looks very good. Are you cleaning the parts or using any flux prior to soldering.

Edited April 13, 2013 by JPett

[stelios]

Nice tutorial! What do you use to warm up the ring?

I use a simple and cheap torch bought from the internet. I was inspired by Russ' tutorial posted at the time.

[stelios]

Ahoy Stelios

 

Thanks for posting, I too am looking forward to this part in my build. Your work looks very good. Are you cleaning the parts or using any flux prior to soldering.

No I did not use any flux prior to soldering, however, as mentioned in step three, the trimming with the needle files  cleans the parts.

 

Stelios

[Geoff Matson]

Thanks for taking the time to post your method. Next time I make some rings I will give it a try.

[src]

Thanks for posting this, I am at that stage right now and was trying to solder my parts in place and creating briquettes in the process. Gonna try this, thanks again. 

One question, are you using hard silver solder or silver bearing plumbers solder?

Ok two questions, are you blackening after crimping to your deadeye?

Sam

[Jay 1]

Stelios, I like your method--very nice! However, I'm a confused about the circlip pliers. Could you post a photo of the ones you're using, please? The type of circlip pliers I'm familiar with have 2 posts at their tips--like the picture below--so I'm having a hard time seeing how this type of pliers can make such nice ovals!

 

 

Cheers,

Jay

[src]

Jay,

I think he is talking about round nose pliers. Try a web search for that. MicroMark may have them. Any good jewelry supply place will have them. Ottofrei.com i where I by mine.

sam

[Jay 1]

Thanks, Sam--yep, that makes sense. Just couldn't see circlip pliers working out...

 

Jay

[src]

NP Jay, looking at your picture of the circlip plier, they might be just the thing to crimp the strop around the deadeye.

Sam 

[Jay 1]

Sam, I didn't see it at 1st--was thinking of how I used to use them as intended for installing/removing circlips--but ones with long nose posts would be able to do what Stelios described...methinks I'll be digging my circlip pliers out and giving this a try!

 

Jay 

[src]

Jay, I didnt have any circlips so I tried my roundnose pliers. I think they worked out ok.

 

 

Sam

[Jay 1]

Sam, thanks for the photo--it does look like the round nose pliers did a nice job!

 

Jay

[stelios]

Thanks for posting this, I am at that stage right now and was trying to solder my parts in place and creating briquettes in the process. Gonna try this, thanks again. 

One question, are you using hard silver solder or silver bearing plumbers solder?

Ok two questions, are you blackening after crimping to your deadeye?

Sam

Sam,

apologies for the belated response, activities other than ship modelling are keeping me busy...

 

First of all, the attached picture shows is the pliers I use, not an expensive one, it just gives me the flexibility to choose the inner width of the ring.

 

The soldering material I use is  in tube (1 oz paste) and on the label it is stated: Fusion Brazing Paste prod: STL-1205-655. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I used Russ' tutorial. I think it mentions the same paste. It is very easy to use especially for novices like me.

 

The blackening process comes at the very end. The dead-eyes (wooden) were not affected.

 

Cheers

Stelios

Edited October 20, 2013 by stelios

[stelios]

Jay, I didnt have any circlips so I tried my roundnose pliers. I think they worked out ok.

 

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Sam

This is a neat job Sam.

[Jay 1]

Stelios, thank you so much for posting a photo of the pliers you use!  Using those type of pliers makes great sense--now I fully understand your technique!  I will try those on the next straps I make, as it looks much easier than making jigs or etc., and the pliers should give the perfect crimp.  

 

I also use a paste similar to what you're using, and you're right, it's very easy to use!  Sam, if you need a source for it, let me know and I'll post the supplier's info.  It's a little expensive, but it goes a long way and works great!  Like Stelios, I got my info from Russ' excellent tutorial!

 

Cheers,

Jay

[src]

Hey all thanks!! I have a similar solder here. I am amazed at just how little it takes! So far I have all my deadeyes stropped and the first chain attached. Yesterday I stared in on the second chain that gets bolts/nailed to the hull and plate. Off to work at the moment, I will get a picture up this evening.

Thanks

Sam

[src]

Still need some clean up and filing and straightening etc.

Look about right???

 

 

 

Sam

[Jay 1]

Sam, those are looking really nice--well done!

 

Jay