Relative Gun Lengths 4pdr to 6pdr

[Matrim]

Does anyone know the length ranges of an English 4 pdr cannon and a 6 pdr cannon of around 1780?

 

My Bounty has four four pounders but the kit cannons are 'ok' but I would prefer to get better and though I could scratch them I am just buying better for this model. I like the look of Chuck's but the smaller non-swivel ones there are 6pdrs. Since the bore is not drastically larger from a 4pdr to 6pdr I wondered if the lengths overlapped (or were the same) so I could then get the nicer looking cannon. 

 

In town  so no access to the relevant books.

 

Thanks for any opinions.

[druxey]

Blomefield pattern 6 pounder 6' 0" long 

 

Armstrong/Frederick pattern 6 pounder 6' 6"

 

Frederick pattern, 6 pounder 6 ' 6", 4 pounder 5' 6"

 

(From Caruana, The History of English Sea Ordnance, Volume II)

 

Take your pick!

[Matrim]

thanks druxey. i had a look myself at 4 pdr sizes and Lavery says they were between 5 foot 6 and 6 foot which is at scale 23.8125 mm to 28.75

 

the smallest syren is 29.76 so is close but I wonder if I could just get the relevant carriage and use the kit cannon. 

[mtaylor]

i used Chuck's guns for my Licorne as 6 and 4 pounders.   I would think you could go either way as far as cannons or carriages.  But you might ping Chuck to get dimensions to double check.

[Matrim]

I have ordered some anyway. I only need 4 so the cost is minor and then I can visually check. I may end up using Chuck's in their entirety or just the carriages... Worse comes to the worse and I can always scratch build them. I was surprised how bad the kit gun carriages actually were (the cannon themselves were fine)