ErnieL Posted May 11, 2020 Share #1 Posted May 11, 2020 Do any of you brains use any sort of special tool for cleanly driving brass pins into wood? I’ve managed to band at least 10 so far and I’ve given up.. Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted May 11, 2020 Share #2 Posted May 11, 2020 I usually pre-drill holes for the pins - slightly smaller than the pin diameter. Very seldom bend one unless it`s started crooked. Mark ErnieL and mtaylor 2 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, marktiedens said: I usually pre-drill holes for the pins - slightly smaller than the pin diameter. Very seldom bend one unless it`s started crooked. Mark Now why didn’t I think of that. Duhhhhh. Thanks. It makes sense marktiedens and mtaylor 2 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted May 11, 2020 Share #4 Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) This thread may add more insight for this topic: *https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23377-nail-drivers Edited May 11, 2020 by Jaager mtaylor 1 Quote NRG member 45 years Current: HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 ship - timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr PR Posted May 11, 2020 Share #5 Posted May 11, 2020 You can find punches with concave or "dimpled" ends - for leather working. They are usually knurled for a good grip, and the hollow end won't slip off the head of the pins. For really snug fits you can use a small hammer to tap the end of the punch to encourage the pin to enter the wood. I have inserted very small pins without drilling, but drilling a slightly undersize hole first makes life a lot less frustrating! mtaylor and ErnieL 2 Quote Phil Current build: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19611-albatros-by-dr-pr-mantua-scale-140-about-1815/&tab=comments#comment-601276 Previous build: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19321-uss-oklahoma-city-clg-5-1971-3d-cad-model/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelF Posted May 11, 2020 Share #6 Posted May 11, 2020 Ernie If you're using the very fine pins that come with your Speedy kit then a nail driver will definitely not work. I know - I tried! With the softer wood used for first planking I found I could push the pins in if I gripped them with fine needle-nosed pliers. If you need to pin any of the harder second planking, for example the wales, you need a pilot hole as others have recommended. Derek mtaylor and ErnieL 2 Quote Cheers, Derek Current build: Duchess of Kingston On hold: HMS Winchelsea Previous builds: HMS Speedy, English Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery), Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!) On the stocks: 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 11, 2020 Share #7 Posted May 11, 2020 I have a pair of spike insertion pliers that work brilliantly. Andy ErnieL and mtaylor 2 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieL Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted May 11, 2020 No problem, now I'll just grow a couple extra arms and I'll be golden. mtaylor 1 Quote On the bench: Vanguard Models 1/64 HMS Speedy On Deck: Vanguard Models 1/64 Zulu, Vanguard Models 1/64 Fifie, Victory Models 1/72 HMS Bellerophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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