mkmossop Posted June 24, 2013 Share #1 Posted June 24, 2013 Ok so I know what type of stitch etc I'm going to use on the sail, however I'm not sure where exactly to sew. I'm going to paint the emblem where the outline is, and after that, do I sew through the emblem? The dotted lines don't pass through it, so I'm not sure if that means I'm not supposed to sew through it. On someone else's model I think they sewed around the entire emblem outline. Thanks for any tips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted June 24, 2013 Share #2 Posted June 24, 2013 If you consider that the sewn lines are the seams of the sail cloths used to construct the sail, then the emblem would have been an additional piece sewn over the cloths. Hence the seams would be hidden by the emblem. Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 24, 2013 Share #3 Posted June 24, 2013 My impression always was that the emblems were painted on the sails. Which suggests: seams visible. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkmossop Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted June 27, 2013 Ok that's one vote each way... anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted June 28, 2013 Share #5 Posted June 28, 2013 Everything I've seen indicated painted on. Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted June 30, 2013 Share #6 Posted June 30, 2013 Yes, sewing seems to be a fairly common practices among modellers. But it is not anywhere to scale. I prefer glueing as well. I gather there are historical examples for both, painting as well as applications to create devices on sails. The same as for flags. Both techniques were used together also. wefalck Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeler12 Posted June 30, 2013 Share #7 Posted June 30, 2013 I agree that the sails would have been sewn all the way to indicate that they are seams. The scale of your model should also be considered when making the sails. I used a very light weight cotton for my Connie model which is at 1:76 scale. Anything smaller could lead to the scale problems mentioned. If I were you I would paint the emblem. They would never be exposed to the weather on your model and adding additional materials to both sides would make the sail too thick. Quote Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkmossop Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted July 3, 2013 To clear things up... I'm going to paint the emblem on for sure, I'm just not sure if I should sew through it. If historically they emblem is sewn on, then I'll just sew around the edges of where I painted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted July 3, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 3, 2013 If that emblem is sewn on with out seams in it. It would be a very wide piece of cloth. Bob PopJack 1 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopJack Posted July 21, 2013 Share #10 Posted July 21, 2013 Please forgive a non-expert opinion from a dry-lander here, but I have read that the reasons the sails had seams was because the width of fabric available from which to make them was limited, thus multiple pieces were sewn together. As time progressed and wider fabric bolts progressed, so did the wider or non-seamed sail. The seams in photographs were quite pronounced- because of fabric overlap I would assume- but I have seen several photographs where this was true. This would lead me to believe that the seams should definitely run through any painted on decoration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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