petervisser Posted January 31, 2021 #1 Posted January 31, 2021 Up until now I have used the rigging supplies provided with the kits I have built with a few exceptions. But I have discovered a couple of other kinds of suppliers that others may have access to in their neck of the woods. As for rigging thread I like using seine twine which I have sourced from a local chandlers here in Victoria. The black seine twine comes in a variety of diameters which I generally use for the standing rigging. It's actually tarred nylon and so it doesn't have the "fuzzieness" of rigging thread that comes with most kits. The tan line comes in only one diameter so I am carefull where it's used to try and keep it to scale. I have also sourced some wire rope at the chandler's but have also found some at the local bead shop. I went there to see what kind of chain I could purchase in preparation for rigging the Cutty Sark which I'm building. Lo and behold, they also had small gauge wire which would be suitable for my current project. Here is a photo of the wire rope I bought at the chandler. They also need wire sleeves so as to crimp them. Splicing would require teeny tiny hands... I was pleased to find some small gauge chain which I will need to rig the Cutty Sark. This I found at the bead shop and they has several sizes for various purposes. Of course they will have to be painted before they go on the model. I'm sure that some of you will be familiar with these sources for rigging supplies. But for those of you looking for chain, wire and rigging thread, these are great options which are likely cheaper than model kit suppliers. Cheers, Peter mtaylor and marktiedens 2 Quote Build Log: Billing - Cutty Sark In The Gallery: HMS Unicorn, HMAV Bounty, L'Etoile, Marie Jeanne, Lilla Dan, Zeeschouw "Irene" A Toast: To a wind that blows, A ship that goes, And the lass that loved a sailor!
lehmann Posted January 31, 2021 #2 Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) Greetings from the Mainland, What are the diameters of the seine twine? I just bought a spool of the AWF 60 lb test bright wire from Amazon for a totally different purpose - to restring my parallel ruler on my drafting board. Remember to remove the nylon coating for your model. This wire is stainless steel, so it would be good to know if it can be blackened. Lastly, some people may want to know the diameters by test. Edited January 31, 2021 by lehmann mtaylor 1 Quote Bruce Stay Sharp - Stay Safe Judgement comes from experience: experience comes from poor judgement. USS Constitution: Scratch build solid hull 1:96 scale
petervisser Posted January 31, 2021 Author #3 Posted January 31, 2021 Bruce has asked about the diameters of the seine twine, so this morning I dusted off the digital calipers and took some measurements. Her's a pic with the results... Thanks for the tip about the nylon coating Bruce. I'm repairing a model of a West Coast seiner and will keep the stainless colour so I'm not sure if I'll need to remove it. I'll do a little experimentation. Cheers, Peter mtaylor 1 Quote Build Log: Billing - Cutty Sark In The Gallery: HMS Unicorn, HMAV Bounty, L'Etoile, Marie Jeanne, Lilla Dan, Zeeschouw "Irene" A Toast: To a wind that blows, A ship that goes, And the lass that loved a sailor!
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted January 31, 2021 #4 Posted January 31, 2021 Super! I should have thought of bead craft supplies that abound in local stores these days. They'd have fine chain, small tools and stuff. I think that seed beads would be OK for use as pulleys on a 1:150 scale clipper (an Academy plastic kit having extended yards for the studding sails). Somewhat larger ones could do for deadeyes - yet to hand tie ratlines so small may try my aging fingers, so perhaps I'll just glue them in place with CA applied with a toothpick. mtaylor 1 Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65
hornet Posted January 31, 2021 #5 Posted January 31, 2021 I have spent quite a lot of time haunting antique shops. I have collected a lot of old cotton and linen thread - people actually collect cotton reels - which is (in my opinion) often better quality that the tread produced now. I calculate diameter then make up appropriate diameter ropes using various numbers of threads on my home made rope walker. It is now one of my favourite model related pastimes. mtaylor 1 Quote Hornet Current Build: - HMS Adder - Vanguard Models. Completed Ship Builds: OcCre - Shackleton’s Endurance (in gallery) Caldercraft - HM Bark Endeavour (in gallery) Caldercraft - HMAV Bounty (in Gallery) Caldercraft - HM Brig Supply (In Gallery) Aeropiccola - Golden Hind - Constitution Clipper Seawitch (Scientific) Corel - Victory Modeller's Shipyard - A Schooner of Port Jackson - In Gallery - Brig `Perseverance' - In Gallery - Cutter `Mermaid'- In Gallery - Sirius Longboat (bashed) - In Gallery - Sloop Norfolk - In Gallery Completed Cannon: - French 18th Century Naval Cannon - Napoleonic 12 pound field piece - English 18th Century Carronade Non Ship Builds - Sopwith Camel - Artesania Latina - Fokker DR1 - Artesania Latina
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted January 31, 2021 #6 Posted January 31, 2021 I have demoed full-sized rope making using a home-made spinner of three wooden gears driven by a central cranked gear (all mounted between two boards and held by a sturdy vertical saddle makers clamp. Kids love to crank the rig (with directions) as I make sure nothing goes awry on the other end or in-between. There is a free spinning hook on a wheeled come-along as the rope produced is shorter than the initial length of the set-up, and a weighted three-groove thing-a-ma-jig travels along letting the rope make itself in the process. 'Guess a mini rope maker for inside wouldn't be too hard to devise. mtaylor 1 Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65
hornet Posted January 31, 2021 #7 Posted January 31, 2021 this is my ropewalk. Works a treat. https://modelshipworld.com/topic/14464-inexpensive-powered-rope-walker/?tab=comments#comment-449106 mtaylor 1 Quote Hornet Current Build: - HMS Adder - Vanguard Models. Completed Ship Builds: OcCre - Shackleton’s Endurance (in gallery) Caldercraft - HM Bark Endeavour (in gallery) Caldercraft - HMAV Bounty (in Gallery) Caldercraft - HM Brig Supply (In Gallery) Aeropiccola - Golden Hind - Constitution Clipper Seawitch (Scientific) Corel - Victory Modeller's Shipyard - A Schooner of Port Jackson - In Gallery - Brig `Perseverance' - In Gallery - Cutter `Mermaid'- In Gallery - Sirius Longboat (bashed) - In Gallery - Sloop Norfolk - In Gallery Completed Cannon: - French 18th Century Naval Cannon - Napoleonic 12 pound field piece - English 18th Century Carronade Non Ship Builds - Sopwith Camel - Artesania Latina - Fokker DR1 - Artesania Latina
mtaylor Posted February 1, 2021 #8 Posted February 1, 2021 You can buy rope walks. There's been a lot of good reviews on the one from SyrenShipModels. (Chuck's company). Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
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